Cars that don’t exist any more

[scotta]

Alfa 33

Rust will do that.

I've not seen a mk1 Mondeo for ages either.

On the other hand, I watched the Smith & Sniff video where they point out that as soon as you notice an almera you see another. There are thousands of the shit heaps all over the place!

I was going to say the same. Also Mk5 escorts.

Mk1 Ford KA’s. Mainly cos they disintegrate to dust.

[Orange Cola]

Alfa 33

Rust will do that.

I've not seen a mk1 Mondeo for ages either.

On the other hand, I watched the Smith & Sniff video where they point out that as soon as you notice an almera you see another. There are thousands of the shit heaps all over the place!

I was going to say the same. Also Mk5 escorts.

Mk1 Ford KA’s. Mainly cos they disintegrate to dust.

Theres a couple of Mk1 Ka's which live a few roads away from me. Also had a Mk1 Modeo Estate join the motorway by me at the black pool jct on the M6 on Friday. The woman driving tried to wipe me out twice by driving half in my lane. Thank fuck for the hard shoulder.

[Richard]

Mercedes SLS

Used to see them all the time. Saw loads. Now can’t remember the last time I saw one

Where are they all??

[Richard]

My first car was a Renault 5. There used to be loads of them about.

Presumably they’ve all been crashed by teenagers now or scrapped for engine problems which weren’t worth fixing

[ZedLeg]

I used to see a really tidy R5 in Edinburgh on Zender Turbos. Looked ace.

I'm always amazed when you see a car you wouldn't expect to see any more driving around. I saw a really basic spec Mk4 Escort the other day, it looked brand new.

[Nathan]

i don’t really care - all I want is for you to actually post the figures you refer to in seemingly every one of your posts.

Ah the standard 'I don't care' retort.

The links with the corresponding figures were already posted. Do you want me to provide highlighted screenshots ?

Look at the figures of the X Type vs the XE.

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=%E2 ... mit=Search

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=%E2 ... =jaguar+xe

What are you hoping those figures to say? “Figures” say they produced 350k x types worldwide over 8 years, and from what I can see they’re selling around 40k XEs a year, so pretty close to the Xtype - which is pretty good in this far more SUV focused market today.

Are you that stupid or just maligned and wilfully ignorant ?

The howmanyleft links (derived from official DVLA registration figures) show that in the UK there were well over twice as many X Types on the road than the XE.

I can't see what the issue is here. And don't rabbit on about how I had the temerity to incorrectly state 'they couldn't build them quick enough'.

Evidently, they were 2/3x more popular back then.

[JLv3.0]

Yes, because now they have more models in their range and therefore can't prioritise production to one particular model.

That combined with economic climates not being identical mean that The Figures are meaningless as a basis for comparison.

However, you can both feel free to continue arguing. It's great fun to watch.

[Rich B]

Ah the standard 'I don't care' retort.

The links with the corresponding figures were already posted. Do you want me to provide highlighted screenshots ?

What are you hoping those figures to say? “Figures” say they produced 350k x types worldwide over 8 years, and from what I can see they’re selling around 40k XEs a year, so pretty close to the Xtype - which is pretty good in this far more SUV focused market today.

Are you that stupid or just maligned and wilfully ignorant ?

The howmanyleft links (derived from official DVLA registration figures) show that in the UK there were well over twice as many X Types on the road than the XE.

I can't see what the issue is here. And don't rabbit on about how I had the temerity to incorrectly state 'they couldn't build them quick enough'.

Evidently, they were 2/3x more popular back then.

Just to be clear, are you comparing 8 years of x type production to 2/3 years of XE production in your figures?

[JLv3.0]

Fight or fuck, you two

[Orange Cola]

Shall I just farm their discussion off to this thread, you know, rename the title, and we'll all go and discuss the main topic elsewhere?

[Nathan]

Yes, because now they have more models in their range and therefore can't prioritise production to one particular model.

That combined with economic climates not being identical mean that The Figures are meaningless as a basis for comparison.

However, you can both feel free to continue arguing. It's great fun to watch.

You realise this was because I said you see less XE's on the road than X Types. Nothing more.

[Nathan]

What are you hoping those figures to say? “Figures” say they produced 350k x types worldwide over 8 years, and from what I can see they’re selling around 40k XEs a year, so pretty close to the Xtype - which is pretty good in this far more SUV focused market today.

Are you that stupid or just maligned and wilfully ignorant ?

The howmanyleft links (derived from official DVLA registration figures) show that in the UK there were well over twice as many X Types on the road than the XE.

I can't see what the issue is here. And don't rabbit on about how I had the temerity to incorrectly state 'they couldn't build them quick enough'.

Evidently, they were 2/3x more popular back then.

Just to be clear, are you comparing 8 years of x type production to 2/3 years of XE production in your figures?

Compare year 3 of UK XE registrations with year 3 of UK X Types registrations if it helps the imaginary point you are trying to prove.

[NotoriousREV]

Are you that stupid or just maligned and wilfully ignorant ?

The howmanyleft links (derived from official DVLA registration figures) show that in the UK there were well over twice as many X Types on the road than the XE.

I can't see what the issue is here. And don't rabbit on about how I had the temerity to incorrectly state 'they couldn't build them quick enough'.

Evidently, they were 2/3x more popular back then.

Just to be clear, are you comparing 8 years of x type production to 2/3 years of XE production in your figures?

Compare year 3 of UK XE registrations with year 3 of UK X Types registrations if it helps the imaginary point you are trying to prove.

X-Type new registrations 2001 - 2003: 45,379
XE new registrations 2015 - 2017: 34,449
Down 10,930 units (-24%)

BMW 3 series: 2001 - 2003: 188,898
BMW 3/4 series: 2015 - 2017: 169,523
Down 19,375 units (-10%)

[Rich B]

Just to be clear, are you comparing 8 years of x type production to 2/3 years of XE production in your figures?

Compare year 3 of UK XE registrations with year 3 of UK X Types registrations if it helps the imaginary point you are trying to prove.

X-Type new registrations 2001 - 2003: 45,379
XE new registrations 2015 - 2017: 34,449
Down 10,930 units (-24%)

BMW 3 series: 2001 - 2003: 188,898
BMW 3/4 series: 2015 - 2017: 169,523
Down 19,375 units (-10%)

So in reality they’re selling pretty well compared to the X type which they couldn’t make enough of.

Thank you for quoting actual figures - that was my point.

[NotoriousREV]

Compare year 3 of UK XE registrations with year 3 of UK X Types registrations if it helps the imaginary point you are trying to prove.

X-Type new registrations 2001 - 2003: 45,379
XE new registrations 2015 - 2017: 34,449
Down 10,930 units (-24%)

BMW 3 series: 2001 - 2003: 188,898
BMW 3/4 series: 2015 - 2017: 169,523
Down 19,375 units (-10%)

So in reality they’re selling pretty well compared to the X type which they couldn’t make enough of.

Thank you for quoting actual figures - that was my point.

It's a completely different market than in the early 2000s, more fragmented, different finance patterns, fewer company cars, different competative landscape etc. It's hard to make a realistic comparison.

[SSO]

Alfa 33

Rust will do that.

The one I had back in 1990 came pre-rusted from the factory.

[Jimmy Choo]

Being very specific, none of my old cars exist any more. I scrapped the Primera and Saab. Both BMWs went (3 series first, then the shitty 5 series) to the scrapheap after I sold them. Amazingly, the 166 survived longest which is a miracle as it was fucked when I traded it for the even more fucked 5 series.

[Zonda_]

When was the last time you saw a Ford Orion?

An hour ago, very tidy looking 1.4L

[Richard]

Didn’t think this existed anymore

[Zonda_]

When was the last time you saw a Scorpio?