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Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 4:50 pm
by mik
Iran tried to assassinate Trump apparently.

Link includes excited Hegseth vid

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 5:08 pm
by duncs500
ZedLeg wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 3:10 pm
dinny_g wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 9:29 am
ZedLeg wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2026 12:13 pm That sounds like reasons to start now rather than wait for the collapse and try and sort it after tbh.
I've always sort of been in the "Why cut off our nose top spite our face" camp but given his recent behaviour, it seems apparent that Britain could concede and concede and concede but the very first time we don't want to do what he's demanding then BAM!!! 500% tariffs...

I'm inclined to tell him to GTF these days...
Exactly, we’re watching him embezzle his own economy. We should be trying to untangle ourselves from it before the house of cards comes down.
Well everybody should be really, it's the wake up call we've probably needed for a while to be honest. Far too many eggs in one basket.

Not the work of a minute to unpick the interaction, and also foolish to remove them entirely as a source of trade, but the aim should be to be strong enough to stand on our own (independent of any of the big nations) and tell anyone that goes rogue to GTF.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 5:10 pm
by duncs500
Just seen the clip of the torpedo hit on that warship, jeez that's some explosion to lift that up like that. :shock:

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 5:27 pm
by Beany
mik wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 4:50 pm Iran tried to assassinate Trump apparently.

Link includes excited Hegseth vid
I mean, members of his own support base have tried to assassinate him, but I don't see Hegseth dropping Daisycutters on Bumfuck, Kentucky :lol:

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 7:00 pm
by V8Granite
duncs500 wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 5:08 pm
ZedLeg wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 3:10 pm
dinny_g wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 9:29 am

I've always sort of been in the "Why cut off our nose top spite our face" camp but given his recent behaviour, it seems apparent that Britain could concede and concede and concede but the very first time we don't want to do what he's demanding then BAM!!! 500% tariffs...

I'm inclined to tell him to GTF these days...
Exactly, we’re watching him embezzle his own economy. We should be trying to untangle ourselves from it before the house of cards comes down.
Well everybody should be really, it's the wake up call we've probably needed for a while to be honest. Far too many eggs in one basket.

Not the work of a minute to unpick the interaction, and also foolish to remove them entirely as a source of trade, but the aim should be to be strong enough to stand on our own (independent of any of the big nations) and tell anyone that goes rogue to GTF.
So we just have to scrap net zero, get farming back on track, energy prices back on track, manufacturing back on track.

All the things Labour are actively fucking up at the minute.

Dave!

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 7:13 pm
by integrale_evo
“First battleship sunk by a torpedo since ww2”

As long as you ignore the Falklands. But yeah, the US didn’t want to help us then.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 8:44 pm
by Rich B
integrale_evo wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 7:13 pm “First battleship sunk by a torpedo since ww2”

As long as you ignore the Falklands. But yeah, the US didn’t want to help us then.
they were pretty slow agreeing to join ww2 as well, but we’re the problem.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 8:46 pm
by RobYob
duncs500 wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 5:10 pm Just seen the clip of the torpedo hit on that warship, jeez that's some explosion to lift that up like that. :shock:
1500 tonnes of Frigate hit by a torpedo designed to snap Cruisers and Carriers.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 9:54 pm
by Mito Man
Rich B wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 8:44 pm
integrale_evo wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 7:13 pm “First battleship sunk by a torpedo since ww2”

As long as you ignore the Falklands. But yeah, the US didn’t want to help us then.
they were pretty slow agreeing to join ww2 as well, but we’re the problem.
Suez Crisis. Anyway there’s no special relationship. They need to stop shouting that nonsense every day.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2026 10:55 pm
by IanF
Mito Man wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 9:54 pm
Rich B wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 8:44 pm
integrale_evo wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 7:13 pm “First battleship sunk by a torpedo since ww2”

As long as you ignore the Falklands. But yeah, the US didn’t want to help us then.
they were pretty slow agreeing to join ww2 as well, but we’re the problem.
Suez Crisis. Anyway there’s no special relationship. They need to stop shouting that nonsense every day.
Depends what you mean.. I fly with people who flew aircraft that only US and UK armed forces saw, we have cross training that supports and improves both our armed forces lethality. Donald Trump is POTUS for one term only (hopefully) and we have built a relationship over decades of common interest.. a 4 year set back is not sufficient imho from what people have sacrificed to achieve. The USA is not one person and I hope that will be apparent sooner rather than later.

Re: Trump

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2026 12:09 am
by Rich B
The Special Relationship is good, but it’s not that special, Canada were Americas “Closest Relations”, France are Americas “Oldest ally”, etc…

ie. its special until it’s not in the US’s interest.

Re: Trump

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2026 12:48 am
by Mito Man
This is a pretty good advertisement for joining the armed forces

And yeah that torpedo attack at 29 seconds bends the entire ship like a banana :shock: