Trump

[mik]

Iran tried to assassinate Trump apparently.

Link includes excited Hegseth vid

[duncs500]

That sounds like reasons to start now rather than wait for the collapse and try and sort it after tbh.

I've always sort of been in the "Why cut off our nose top spite our face" camp but given his recent behaviour, it seems apparent that Britain could concede and concede and concede but the very first time we don't want to do what he's demanding then BAM!!! 500% tariffs...

I'm inclined to tell him to GTF these days...

Exactly, we’re watching him embezzle his own economy. We should be trying to untangle ourselves from it before the house of cards comes down.

Well everybody should be really, it's the wake up call we've probably needed for a while to be honest. Far too many eggs in one basket.

Not the work of a minute to unpick the interaction, and also foolish to remove them entirely as a source of trade, but the aim should be to be strong enough to stand on our own (independent of any of the big nations) and tell anyone that goes rogue to GTF.

[duncs500]

Just seen the clip of the torpedo hit on that warship, jeez that's some explosion to lift that up like that.

[Beany]

Iran tried to assassinate Trump apparently.

Link includes excited Hegseth vid

I mean, members of his own support base have tried to assassinate him, but I don't see Hegseth dropping Daisycutters on Bumfuck, Kentucky

[V8Granite]

I've always sort of been in the "Why cut off our nose top spite our face" camp but given his recent behaviour, it seems apparent that Britain could concede and concede and concede but the very first time we don't want to do what he's demanding then BAM!!! 500% tariffs...

I'm inclined to tell him to GTF these days...

Exactly, we’re watching him embezzle his own economy. We should be trying to untangle ourselves from it before the house of cards comes down.

Well everybody should be really, it's the wake up call we've probably needed for a while to be honest. Far too many eggs in one basket.

Not the work of a minute to unpick the interaction, and also foolish to remove them entirely as a source of trade, but the aim should be to be strong enough to stand on our own (independent of any of the big nations) and tell anyone that goes rogue to GTF.

So we just have to scrap net zero, get farming back on track, energy prices back on track, manufacturing back on track.

All the things Labour are actively fucking up at the minute.

Dave!

[integrale_evo]

“First battleship sunk by a torpedo since ww2”

As long as you ignore the Falklands. But yeah, the US didn’t want to help us then.

[Rich B]

“First battleship sunk by a torpedo since ww2”

As long as you ignore the Falklands. But yeah, the US didn’t want to help us then.

they were pretty slow agreeing to join ww2 as well, but we’re the problem.

[RobYob]

Just seen the clip of the torpedo hit on that warship, jeez that's some explosion to lift that up like that.

1500 tonnes of Frigate hit by a torpedo designed to snap Cruisers and Carriers.

[Mito Man]

“First battleship sunk by a torpedo since ww2”

As long as you ignore the Falklands. But yeah, the US didn’t want to help us then.

they were pretty slow agreeing to join ww2 as well, but we’re the problem.

Suez Crisis. Anyway there’s no special relationship. They need to stop shouting that nonsense every day.

[IanF]

“First battleship sunk by a torpedo since ww2”

As long as you ignore the Falklands. But yeah, the US didn’t want to help us then.

they were pretty slow agreeing to join ww2 as well, but we’re the problem.

Suez Crisis. Anyway there’s no special relationship. They need to stop shouting that nonsense every day.

Depends what you mean.. I fly with people who flew aircraft that only US and UK armed forces saw, we have cross training that supports and improves both our armed forces lethality. Donald Trump is POTUS for one term only (hopefully) and we have built a relationship over decades of common interest.. a 4 year set back is not sufficient imho from what people have sacrificed to achieve. The USA is not one person and I hope that will be apparent sooner rather than later.

[Rich B]

The Special Relationship is good, but it’s not that special, Canada were Americas “Closest Relations”, France are Americas “Oldest ally”, etc…

ie. its special until it’s not in the US’s interest.

[Mito Man]

This is a pretty good advertisement for joining the armed forces

And yeah that torpedo attack at 29 seconds bends the entire ship like a banana