Running

[dinny_g]

Kicking myself I missed the finish - real once in a generation sporting moment

[speedingfine]

Lol at the Park Run WR fact, incredible

[JonMad]

Didn't see Vettel's time, but the sub-2h times are just incredible. Sawe was faster from 30-35k than the park run world record.

Astonishing feats, and up there with Roger Bannister's record.

Six of them were together up until 30k, and it was only the last 2k where he got any time on Kejelcha.
And Kipruto who was 4th still became the 6th fastest runner of all time, 8th fastest time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon#Men

[Gavster]

Absolutely a historic moment, a mind blowing achievement. I was watching it on BBC and the commentators at 30k were saying they were on course for just over 2 hours. However once Sawe and Kejelcha started pushing and the finish time prediction dropped under 2 hours it was real edge of seat stuff! Amazing to see, there's long been a debate whether sub-2 really was possible. Kelvin Kiptim was so close before he died, but this bunch have totally powered through it. Sawe has knocked something like 2 mins off his marathon time in a year. Wonder what he could do at Berlin or somewhere with a faster course too.

[DeskJockey]

Yes, was about to point out that the London course isn't known for being fast.

[mik]

a mind blowing achievement

I do find it genuinely mind bending > if I set the treadmill to 13mph, the magnitude of averaging this for 2hrs (13.11mph actually) is genuinely difficult to believe.

[DeskJockey]

[Gavster]

That's actually really impressive from Mark, he was in good shape then, most people probably can't even sprint at this speed

[240PP]

a mind blowing achievement

I do find it genuinely mind bending > if I set the treadmill to 13mph, the magnitude of averaging this for 2hrs (13.11mph actually) is genuinely difficult to believe.

4:35 a mile for 26

I never use treadmills so have no real idea how fast I run but used one last week in a hotel gym. Standard jog for most of it then set the speed for a short ‘sprint’ at about 13mph, probably no more than a minute. How they manage 2hrs of that is beyond me.

[mik]

Excellent vid

[Jobbo]

That's actually really impressive from Mark, he was in good shape then, most people probably can't even sprint at this speed

I watch his Welsh farm videos, never watched his previous stuff. Quite enjoyed this one.

As for sprinting at that speed, fuck no. Just seeing the profile view of him running I'd need a heck of a lot more technique and longer legs

On a treadmill presumably it's a little easier than running a marathon because you don't have the wind resistance, which is going to be a real factor at 13mph.

[Gavster]

That's actually really impressive from Mark, he was in good shape then, most people probably can't even sprint at this speed

I watch his Welsh farm videos, never watched his previous stuff. Quite enjoyed this one.

As for sprinting at that speed, fuck no. Just seeing the profile view of him running I'd need a heck of a lot more technique and longer legs

On a treadmill presumably it's a little easier than running a marathon because you don't have the wind resistance, which is going to be a real factor at 13mph.

That's a good point, I guess it would be easier on the treadmill, just trying to keep up with the ground running underneath you, rather than moving with a 13mph headwind.

He's a brilliant inspiration for fitness and working out, because his ethos was simply being above average. Admittedly, he took the 'above average' idea a bit too far, getting really serious about Hyrox, but at least he did it in a self-depreciating way

[Gavster]

Been getting back on the running horse, but trying to do things really differently this time because I've always struggled with recovery due to getting brain fog which gets in the way of life.

The big change is pre/post session fuelling and hydration. Our brains run on glucose, so any brain fog (rather than just being a bit tired) could well be a fuelling issue. Tracking calories to ensure there's enough fuel for the bigger sessions, but also providing enough post-run to get my brain up and running quickly and also to limit any effects on the central nervous system. That looks like simple carbs 60-90 mins before a session, then more simple carbs + a bit of protein within 30 mins of finishing session to clear lactate and calm central nervous system. After that, a big meal within 1-2 hours.

Also hydration, I know this is an obvious one, however i've always been a sweaty boi, so did a sweat calcuation and turns out I lose 2l per hour, which is right at the top end of fluid loss through sweat. Means that my usual habit of drinking 2 x 500ml drinks shortly after a run is nowhere near sufficient after a 1 hour workout. Although it's not necessarily a 1:1 thing to replace it, I should have been drinking wayyyy more than I ever have.

[DeskJockey]

I like that you are unable to not science things. I just run and listen to music.

[8Ball]

@Gavster I'm similar to you, and whilst I don't run I do cycle a lot and have found that regular fuelling and hydration during the longer rides helps massively at the end, especially reducing the desire to eat everything in the kitchen when I get home.

Appreciate it's harder to do when running as apposed to cycling though

[Gavster]

I like that you are unable to not science things. I just run and listen to music.

It's the autism need to over analyse everything

@Gavster I'm similar to you, and whilst I don't run I do cycle a lot and have found that regular fuelling and hydration during the longer rides helps massively at the end, especially reducing the desire to eat everything in the kitchen when I get home.

Appreciate it's harder to do when running as apposed to cycling though

It really is surprising how much of a difference good fuelling and fluid intake makes. When I was doing a lot of sport years ago, it was very much the "no pain no gain" approach of just white-kncukling through everything. Turns out we can do better than that

Because I'm only training for shorter distances right now 5/10km, it means my training runs are all under 90 mins, in fact, most are under 45 mins, which means they're short enough to fuel before and after, rather than during. Not like cycling, where you're only just warmed up after 45 mins

[8Ball]

If you haven't already electrolytes before and after are also really good, especially if you sweat a lot: even more so in this heat

[Gavster]

I've been having some, I get the bulk unflavoured bags from Bulk which are very cheap and then just add a bit of squash to flavour it. Inifnitely cheaper than buying the effervescent tabs. https://www.bulk.com/uk/products/electr ... lec-0000-a

I'm being a bit cautious on the electrolyte content, because I've not had a proper sweat content measurement and in theory we should get enough sodium etc from a healthy diet anyway. And excess sodium consumption is a bad thing. But it's kinda guesswork really too, and I make all my own food so my sodium intake is possibly quite low day-to-day. Hmmmmm another thing to measure

[DeskJockey]

Have you thought about teaming up with something like Nuffield Health to get running (pun definitely intended) data on your state of being?

[unzippy]

I've been having some, I get the bulk unflavoured bags from Bulk which are very cheap and then just add a bit of squash to flavour it. Inifnitely cheaper than buying the effervescent tabs. https://www.bulk.com/uk/products/electr ... lec-0000-a

I'm being a bit cautious on the electrolyte content, because I've not had a proper sweat content measurement and in theory we should get enough sodium etc from a healthy diet anyway. And excess sodium consumption is a bad thing. But it's kinda guesswork really too, and I make all my own food so my sodium intake is possibly quite low day-to-day. Hmmmmm another thing to measure

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