Depends on your priorities I guess.
I’ve been pretty vocal on what I don’t like about Starmer’s Labour and they’ve never convinced me that I was wrong.
Bye bye Starmer
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Labour MP's are fooling themselves if they think changing leader will make any meaningful difference. New leader, same poisoned chalice.
It'll just be continuation of chaos until we get to the next GE, in which a bomb will be thrown into government.
TBF, I do think it's become exceedingly difficult to govern.
It'll just be continuation of chaos until we get to the next GE, in which a bomb will be thrown into government.
TBF, I do think it's become exceedingly difficult to govern.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
It's almost like Labour learned nothing about how to handle the press from the Corbyn days.
As noted, the general performance of them has been broadly OK, with significant, individual fuckups that go completely against the ostensible party ethos, causing traditional labour supporters to get annoyed with them, and that then leaves them wide open for the right wing press - some 80% of circulation - to either rip them to shreds, or openly lie and put an apology on page 23 when caught out.
They're incompetent at handling their PR and I don't understand how they aren't better at it by now. They should be rolling over the Tories (and reform, frankly, given the immigration wins lately) but you hear fucking nothing about it.
Much as though I have a deep seated hatred for Blairs lot, at least they had the press mostly under control.
As noted, the general performance of them has been broadly OK, with significant, individual fuckups that go completely against the ostensible party ethos, causing traditional labour supporters to get annoyed with them, and that then leaves them wide open for the right wing press - some 80% of circulation - to either rip them to shreds, or openly lie and put an apology on page 23 when caught out.
They're incompetent at handling their PR and I don't understand how they aren't better at it by now. They should be rolling over the Tories (and reform, frankly, given the immigration wins lately) but you hear fucking nothing about it.
Much as though I have a deep seated hatred for Blairs lot, at least they had the press mostly under control.
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Re: Bye bye Starmer
Yep. And the media cop for a lot of the blame on why it's becoming ungovernable - continually hounding Ministers over any mistake, sign of weakness, or feelings of unpopularity amongst the masses - but the MPs themselves enable it. This is only happening because there are some within the Labour Party that are desperate for power themselves.Alex88 wrote: Tue May 12, 2026 12:24 pm Labour MP's are fooling themselves if they think changing leader will make any meaningful difference. New leader, same poisoned chalice.
It'll just be continuation of chaos until we get to the next GE, in which a bomb will be thrown into government.
TBF, I do think it's become exceedingly difficult to govern.
If it wasn't for the woeful handling of the economy I reckon he'd be fairly safe - that's why he's currently as deeply unpopular as he is, nationally.