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I think a lot of people Don't think that ship as sailed at all...
(It was the FT article which mentioned "Laying the Groundwork to re-joining the EU" as a conservative concern... )
Yeah, exactly. He clearly knows it's too devise a subject and will lose votes if he made a stand and said that under Labour we'd seek to re-enter the EU however long it takes.
Yeah as I'm not a raving leftie remainerscotta wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 11:57 am I dont trust any of them. I thought that the SNP were the best of a bad bunch - but see how that's turned out in recent weeks.
Those in government should be the best leaders surrounded by the best people with the interest of the country put first. This simply is not the case. In all honesty i think we could form a government from the members of this forum (Not Broccers) and do a better job![]()
I was more getting to the fact that you are not a well balanced human being to start with...Broccers wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 1:53 pmYeah as I'm not a raving leftie remainerscotta wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 11:57 am I dont trust any of them. I thought that the SNP were the best of a bad bunch - but see how that's turned out in recent weeks.
Those in government should be the best leaders surrounded by the best people with the interest of the country put first. This simply is not the case. In all honesty i think we could form a government from the members of this forum (Not Broccers) and do a better job![]()
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If you say so Scott.scotta wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 3:55 pmI was more getting to the fact that you are not a well balanced human being to start with...Broccers wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 1:53 pmYeah as I'm not a raving leftie remainerscotta wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 11:57 am I dont trust any of them. I thought that the SNP were the best of a bad bunch - but see how that's turned out in recent weeks.
Those in government should be the best leaders surrounded by the best people with the interest of the country put first. This simply is not the case. In all honesty i think we could form a government from the members of this forum (Not Broccers) and do a better job![]()
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That whole National Conservatives conference thing a vaguely terrifying on a number of levels.Rich B wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 7:41 pm Talking of which, even amongst this latest sneering - JRM went so far as condemning labour for potential gerrymandering by using an example of an intentional conservative gerrymandering attempt not working. But still we know full well there'll be no consequences - rules don't apply to them any more. They really are a bunch of cunts.
Thanks for clarifying. When I saw SB, JRM and MG as keynote speakers, I assumed they were *part* of the Natcon thing, rather than just using it as a platform to voice the opinions considered *too* extreme for the common or garden Tory party. Although, I note that the reaction to the reaction was for the regular Tories to back them to the hilt and claim that the speeches had been vetted and approved, and 100% reflected current Conservative party policy (even, apparently, the weird bits about seances with Maggie Thatcher).Jobbo wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 8:39 am The National Conservatism thing is a separate organisation to the Tory party, not a splinter group from it or anything like that. These are the people behind it: https://burke.foundation/people/
Seems only a short time since the Shrewsbury MP was reprimanded for talking at a previous Natcon conference in 2020: https://news.sky.com/story/tory-mp-dani ... s-11927858
Doesn't make it any less powerful or harmful though - Farage was never in power but managed to get what he wanted. I wonder if any mileage will come from him saying Brexit is a disaster and we may as well go back in - principled, much?
I'm pretty sure the latter is more likely. It's never about the good of the country with conservatives, it's all about what's good for them.Jobbo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:55 am These by-election results are a good indication that the Tories will suffer a pretty dramatic loss next year. Anyone think Rishi will call an earlier election? Or will they run time out ruining stuff and putting in place rules and contracts which completely fuck over the next government in order to get back in come 2029?