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Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:35 am
by Explosive Newt
mik wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:31 am
Started as Piggery Smokery : online artisan bacon sales. Bloody marvellous it was.
Then they started a family-run cafe in their locale which easily consumed (pun intended) all the bacon they could make - which effectively shut down the online sales
And that has also now closed. It's a generally sad state of affairs.
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/ne ... ug-closes/
I remember buying some of their stuff in the pandemic, and rather nice it was too. A sad story.
Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:36 am
by Explosive Newt
V8Granite wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:28 am
Don’t you dare say anything about bacon mother trucker!!
Dave!
Quit hogging the thread
Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:58 am
by duncs500
V8Granite wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:18 am
duncs500 wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:28 am
It's there ready in as
small a quantity as I need.
I’ve read this a few times but am struggling to understand the part in bold ?
Dave!
What's the issue? That I only need a small quantity?
In truth bread holds equal value to the bacon for me, so whilst I probably
could eat a whole pack in one sitting, in well proportioned sandwiches a packet of bacon with the corresponding bread would be too much for me.
I appreciate that your diet doesn't allow such delights as bread, but we're not all health freaks like you Dave!

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:00 am
by Jobbo
Explosive Newt wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:25 am
mik wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:21 am
PiggerySmokery artisan bacon converted me to Streaky too. (That business venture sadly closed now - due to health issues apparently

)
Health of sellers or… of buyers?
...or pigs?
I forgot about my other method of cooking bacon; in the oven on a metal cake cooling rack over a baking tray to get properly crisp streaky rashers like the Americans manage.
Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:38 am
by Simon
Much like @Jobbo I think I'm the only person in our household who's DIR. My wife sees pans as expendable, so they get ruined/scratched by her use and replaced far more often than I'd like.
Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:50 am
by dinny_g
As soon as a non stick pan is showing any signs of scratches, I'll bin it. Tefal non stick pans are always on a deal in Sainsburys or Tesco so I tend to replace quite regularly.
I'd be tempted to "Buy once, buy right" with a HexClad one but my other half would ruin it. Not by using metal utensils as she doesn't cook at all but at least once per month, I'll find she's dumped the cast iron pans in the cupboard on top of the Non Stick...
And no amount of asking her not to will stop this behaviour.
Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:01 am
by Swervin_Mervin
Just to get back into the "discussion" - bacon is generally cooked under the grill in our household.
@mik On the rare occasion it's required to top a burger or the like, I'll do it on the skillet and use a burger press to keep it flat. If you don't have a burger press you can cover with foil and place a pan on top. Keeps the bacon ultra flat and gets it all super crispy.
As for utensils in pans - we only have a non-stick wok, and even then only because it was part of the Le Creuset pan set we got when we got married - no metal utensils permitted. All other pans are stainless. I can highly recommend Ikea's Sensuell frying pans - triple-ply steel and easily as good quality as the Le Creuset triple ply. Fantastic for doing fried eggs in where I can get my metal spatula in and scrape away happily if they stick

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:09 am
by Jobbo
Simon wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:38 am
Much like @Jobbo I think I'm the only person in our household who's DIR. My wife sees pans as expendable, so they get ruined/scratched by her use and replaced far more often than I'd like.
Since you suffer the same way, have you tried ceramic pans? I have a feeling they may be the compromise which will tolerate ham-fistedly levering stuff off with a metal spatula. But I've not gone so far as to try them.
Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:30 am
by Mito Man
I used to have a lovely stainless steel pan set I used for everything - easy enough to fry eggs on but then changed my hob to induction so binned the lot. I now have a crap mish mash selection, a few non stick ones but I don’t particularly car what utensil I use on them as they’re pretty disposable TK Maxx stuff

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:32 am
by mik
dinny_g wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:50 am
at least once per month, I'll find she's dumped the cast iron pans in the cupboard on top of the Non Stick...
And no amount of asking her not to will stop this behaviour.
I feel your pain.
Our smallest frying pan is a relatively new tefal job - I can't remember what she was making, but mrs mik wanted to pop it under the grille a couple of months ago.
But the grille element on our oven switches off when you open the door. So you'd need to put the whole pan in. Which means you need to switch the contents over to one of the metal-handled frying pans we own.
"No. It'll be fine"
So now we have a small Tefal frying pan with a lightly grilled handle. Lovely texture.
Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:38 am
by IanF
It’s amazing how the fairer sex can be quite ham fisted .. see also dishwasher loading
Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:38 am
by Carlos
Jobbo wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:09 am
Simon wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:38 am
Much like @Jobbo I think I'm the only person in our household who's DIR. My wife sees pans as expendable, so they get ruined/scratched by her use and replaced far more often than I'd like.
Since you suffer the same way, have you tried ceramic pans? I have a feeling they may be the compromise which will tolerate ham-fistedly levering stuff off with a metal spatula. But I've not gone so far as to try them.
Same here, I've thrown all the metal utensils but my wife still reaches for a fork. The fucker even scrambles eggs in the pan with a fork!
I've tried more expensive vogue, procook pans and they don't seem to last more than a couple of years same as a decent Tefal!
Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:42 am
by speedingfine
Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:51 am
by Jobbo
mik wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:32 am
I feel your pain.
Our smallest frying pan is a relatively new tefal job - I can't remember what she was making, but mrs mik wanted to pop it under the grille a couple of months ago.
But the grille element on our oven switches off when you open the door. So you'd need to put the whole pan in. Which means you need to switch the contents over to one of the metal-handled frying pans we own.
"No. It'll be fine"
So now we have a small Tefal frying pan with a lightly grilled handle. Lovely texture.
I realise I've not done an omelette or anything else in our new house yet which might require you to grill the top of a frying pan. I suspect the ovens are too intelligent to work with the doors open like yours. FFS. I like to melt cheese onto my omelette and there's no other sensible way of doing it.
Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:54 am
by ZedLeg
Get an omelette pan with a metal handle so you can close the door?
Also, if you’re grilling the top it’s a fritatta

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Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:56 am
by Explosive Newt
Now I'm really hungry reading all this.
Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:03 pm
by V8Granite
duncs500 wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:58 am
V8Granite wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:18 am
duncs500 wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:28 am
It's there ready in as
small a quantity as I need.
I’ve read this a few times but am struggling to understand the part in bold ?
Dave!
What's the issue? That I only need a small quantity?
In truth bread holds equal value to the bacon for me, so whilst I probably
could eat a whole pack in one sitting, in well proportioned sandwiches a packet of bacon with the corresponding bread would be too much for me.
I appreciate that your diet doesn't allow such delights as bread, but we're not all health freaks like you Dave!
Someone has to stay slim and pretty
Dave!
Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:07 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
Mito Man wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:30 am
I used to have a lovely stainless steel pan set I used for everything - easy enough to fry eggs on but then changed my hob to induction so binned the lot. I now have a crap mish mash selection, a few non stick ones but I don’t particularly car what utensil I use on them as they’re pretty disposable TK Maxx stuff
Why would you bin your stainless pans after going induction?

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:09 pm
by dinny_g
IanF wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:38 am
see also dishwasher loading
Don't get me started...

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:32 pm
by V8Granite
dinny_g wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:09 pm
IanF wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:38 am
see also dishwasher loading
Don't get me started...
I thought loading the dishwasher was when you finished inside her
Dave!