Elon Musk/Tesla

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Anecdotal I know, but the vast majority of my uber rides are either just me or me and one other (like Rimac states), so why does everyone think they need bigger vehicles? It’ll just be like now, pick the type of vehicle that has enough seats when you order your cab/uber etc. Unless you all want to sit behind an empty row of seats? Two seats, bigger doors ftmfw
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I’m sure the vast majority of taxi rides are for one or two passengers.

However if you were designing a single taxi platform for your company you’d probably want it to fit as many scenarios as possible and be as easy for people of all ages and abilities to get in and out of. A low coupe with bonnet and dropping tail is a poor use of its footprint when the primary function is transporting people and you’re not restricted by a traditional powertrain layout.

It’s not yours, why do you care what it looks like? It will most likely be used in towns and cities at speeds where aerodynamics isn’t a major concern.

I don’t use taxis, haven’t ever used Uber, I’m not particularly bothered by it, it just seems some odd engineering choices.
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The important thing to remember is that these have been designed, at a high level, by people who hate people who don't have limo drivers. The idea of getting on a train digusts them, and using a bus? They'd rather shoot themselves in the face.

Hence two seats tops - why would you want to be in a vehicle with anyone other than the tech bro you're making a hundred million dollar deal with, or the sex worker you've hired because your personality gives women red flags from 50ft?
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This was eye-opening :shock:

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Beany wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2026 1:59 pm ...or the sex worker you've hired because your personality gives women red flags from 50ft?
Archer: Oh my God! You killed a hooker!

Cyril: Call girl! She was a-

Archer: No Cyril, when they're dead they're just hookers!
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DeskJockey wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2026 12:05 pm This was eye-opening :shock:

I’m most surprised at people being surprised that it was a pump and dump tbh.

Like, of course it was.
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What was surprising, but perhaps shouldn't be, is that they changed the rules just for this, and that if you're in the top 100 buying your stock is mandatory.
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What Elon really proves is that it’s easy to be successful as a greedy immoral sociopath if you help some other cunts get rich on the way.
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I've got a vision of Musk sitting in his mansion, lamenting the loss of a comma, like Russ Hanneman.

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Musk doesn't have any aesthetic understanding. He thought the Cybertruck looked good FFS.

Although in fairness, it does look like the SpaceX stock price
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Looks like the typical suborbital starship launch. Currently in the pile driving into the ocean phase.
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Mito Man wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2026 4:06 pm Looks like the typical suborbital starship launch. Currently in the pile driving into the ocean phase.
And yet according to the IPO prospectus, SpaceX predicts it'll actually make 80% of it's near $30tn TAM from "enterprise AI"

Not rockets

So the rocket company (that makes most if it's money by charging Starlink for launch services), bought the AI company (which in turn had already bought the social media company) - and yet it's actually going to make it's money from AI?

Pyramid, anyone?
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Ah yes, enterprises, famous for doing their due diligence and going

"Hmm, yes, I think I will go with the AI company who's models outputs are deliberately modelled by a weird, noncey racist, causing it to claim there's white genocide in south africa, and who's senior management laughed about, and was proud of, making child porn with one tweet. This is definitely the platform we want to use at MegaCorp TM and absolutely won't immediately drag our reputation into disrepute as soon as anyone realises that we've gone with them, definitely not!"
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The AI circle jerk is an actual thing. All the big tech companies are just about the only thing propping each other up right now. Everyone knows it will implode sooner or later. Hopefully sooner, so I can buy some computer bits at reasonable prices again 🙄
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Oh it's absolutely circular investing, and it'd likely otherwise be investigated by the FTC etc.

But Crime Is Legal at the moment, so you know, fuck the rest of the world, Bezos, Musk and Juang need more money to compensate for the fact they can't get no bitches.
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Mito Man wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2026 5:08 pm The AI circle jerk is an actual thing. All the big tech companies are just about the only thing propping each other up right now. Everyone knows it will implode sooner or later. Hopefully sooner, so I can buy some computer bits at reasonable prices again 🙄
Which is why they all need to IPO ASAP in such a way that pension funds etc (i.e. the public) ends to holding the baby when it all goes south

There is no business model

Let alone one which will repay the spend so far, and forget turn a profit

In two years it'll all be open source, models you can run and tune yourself etc

When I started a dev in the late 80s/early 90s, people paid for software languages (Visual Basic, Borland C++ etc) that must seem crazy to devs used to open source

I can see LLMs going this way

So many businesses are building a delivering features based on 3rd party models, they're not building IP, they're building an external dependency for some of their core functionality

That's not a good thing
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Well the main circle jerk group of companies is already publicly traded. Although typically at the end of a bull cycle you get a load of IPOs. The market is at all time highs and the companies all go in as they get valued the most. There is no more new money coming in so a bunch of stocks get sold to buy into the new stocks. Cracks appear and the whole thing topples like a house of cards. We are on track to hit 2021 IPO levels for the US market so far and SpaceX has stressed the market, although its the biggest IPO ever.

As for SpaceX I don't think it's a particularly nefarious IPO by US market standards.
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Mito Man wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2026 9:44 pm Well the main circle jerk group of companies is already publicly traded. Although typically at the end of a bull cycle you get a load of IPOs. The market is at all time highs and the companies all go in as they get valued the most. There is no more new money coming in so a bunch of stocks get sold to buy into the new stocks. Cracks appear and the whole thing topples like a house of cards. We are on track to hit 2021 IPO levels for the US market so far and SpaceX has stressed the market, although its the biggest IPO ever.

As for SpaceX I don't think it's a particularly nefarious IPO by US market standards.

Well, the main players apart from the two main main players, Anthropic and OpenAI...
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