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Yup…Sundayjumper wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:55 am He’s talking about the end game rather than the actual tariffs. He wants a personal bribe in order to cancel the tariff. In that way, yes, the exporting country does indeed pay the cost.
As I said. It’s protection money.
This explains it succinctly
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18yzQb ... tid=wwXIfr
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“…but I’m gonna make that dog, a beautiful dog, so rich. Everybody is saying it.”
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I'm not sure how knowing this means that the public can do anything about it though?dinny_g wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 11:53 amYup…Sundayjumper wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:55 am He’s talking about the end game rather than the actual tariffs. He wants a personal bribe in order to cancel the tariff. In that way, yes, the exporting country does indeed pay the cost.
As I said. It’s protection money.
This explains it succinctly
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18yzQb ... tid=wwXIfr
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They've got a second amendment.DaveE wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:12 pmI'm not sure how knowing this means that the public can do anything about it though?dinny_g wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 11:53 amYup…Sundayjumper wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:55 am He’s talking about the end game rather than the actual tariffs. He wants a personal bribe in order to cancel the tariff. In that way, yes, the exporting country does indeed pay the cost.
As I said. It’s protection money.
This explains it succinctly
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18yzQb ... tid=wwXIfr
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Yes. 50% on top of the 34% added last week, on top of the 20% he did before that = 104%
China is going hardline, they're not going to take his nonsense. They have a strong position. They know US consumers are going to be mighty pissed if their beloved iPhones etc. near double in price.

China is going hardline, they're not going to take his nonsense. They have a strong position. They know US consumers are going to be mighty pissed if their beloved iPhones etc. near double in price.
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Which reminds me - I read this article earlier. It's from 2018 but goes into more of the cost drivers involved if they wanted iPhones to be *completely* American made:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2018 ... n-america/
TLDR: almost impossible, and even then would take a generation to build up the required infrastructure & skilled workforce.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2018 ... n-america/
TLDR: almost impossible, and even then would take a generation to build up the required infrastructure & skilled workforce.
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PMSL here. Trump thinks he's solved inflation because oil prices are down. It only took crashing the world economy. How long before every other item apart from crude oil significantly goes up in price in America?
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It's hilarious, America is entering its twilight years of global dominance. On the other, China is still on the up, and there's no way they'll take any crap from Trump.Sundayjumper wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:53 pm
China is going hardline, they're not going to take his nonsense. They have a strong position. They know US consumers are going to be mighty pissed if their beloved iPhones etc. near double in price.
It's fascinating how there's been a spate of big social media influencers going over to China and showing the world how far ahead they are, it's like there's been a PR drive, and it's working. I've seen stuff from Bald and Bankrupt, Dylan Page and Speed all doing stuff in China over the last year and each one says how they're light years ahead.
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Boom.Sundayjumper wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 8:33 am Which, perversely, plays right into his hands. A lot of people buying European cars for the style/quality/kudos will be very reluctant to go domestic and will find the money. Or keep their current car slightly longer, which limits s/h supply and helps residuals, which when fed into finance calcs, at least partly offsets the higher sticker price on the new cars. When a lot of (most?) buyers only care about the monthly this could have far less impact on sales volumes than “+25%” might suggest.
It’s still stupid though. I’m not condoning the idea.
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So not only are Tesla values tanking, they’re dropping while other brands are rising 
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Perun on YouTube usually does defence economics based content but as this is now a trade war he's dived into Trump's tariff tantrum and boy did I not realise how deep the stupid went. The take down is savage and funny/tragic.
The penguin tax I knew about along with the chatgpt calculation formula and the base rate of 10% even if the US had a trade surplus.
What I didn't know was the tariff formula inputs were only goods exchange numbers, not services! Absolutely batshit insane.
It gets worse, and maybe I'm really behind the news here, the tariff rate of 60% on tiny Lesotho is entirely due to the economic support previously given by the US!
He closes with "how to win a trade war"
-Focus on a clear long term objective
-Talk before opening fire
-Keep your allies on-board
WTAF.
The penguin tax I knew about along with the chatgpt calculation formula and the base rate of 10% even if the US had a trade surplus.
What I didn't know was the tariff formula inputs were only goods exchange numbers, not services! Absolutely batshit insane.
It gets worse, and maybe I'm really behind the news here, the tariff rate of 60% on tiny Lesotho is entirely due to the economic support previously given by the US!
He closes with "how to win a trade war"
-Focus on a clear long term objective
-Talk before opening fire
-Keep your allies on-board
WTAF.
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Just like their new car sales year on year, too!integrale_evo wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 10:24 pm So not only are Tesla values tanking, they’re dropping while other brands are rising![]()
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The China thing is a bit of a red herring though.. they’ve built enough homes for 2.8bn people, have more cars already built that they can’t sell etc.. their populace expects to increase in wealth and the CP could quite easily decide that invading Taiwan is a way to distract their citizens (I wonder where they’ve picked that up from) - it’s all a big house of cards and irrational nonsense being spouted by Trump plus the real threat of tariffs has the potential to destabilise the entire global order, and that will only be resolved by war.
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