Not quite OEM-look, but I'd be happy with that.Sundayjumper wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:45 pm Phone holder added to the Disco. Model-specific bracket that clips quite nicely onto the dash/vent.
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The weird thing is, I opened the door, left the car to heat up, cleared out the channels etc, closed ok. Went to the village, came back, then closed the door and it cracked when back in the channel. So not sure what happened exactly.mik wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:20 pmOuch.Ascender wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:11 pm Good old frameless doors and cold weather.... driver's side window has cracked along the top edge. Let's see how good Autoglass are for the Highlands....![]()
Gummi-Pflege on the seal prevents this, or even a wipe on the seal with a clear silicone shoe-shine. This kinda thing....
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But thanks for the tip about the Gummi stuff, will get some now.
The glass is a special order but insurance covers it with £115 excess.
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Gummi Pfledge is awesome. Always give my seals a good once over with the Gummi every 6 months.
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<shrugs>Ascender wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:25 pm
The weird thing is, I opened the door, left the car to heat up, cleared out the channels etc, closed ok. Went to the village, came back, then closed the door and it cracked when back in the channel. So not sure what happened exactly.
I assume the glass (normally) does the frameless-window routine of dropping 10mm or so when you open the door, and raising to it's final seal position again when you close it? If so it could be related to that, as the glass possibly couldn't drop when you opened the door originally, and therefore didn't need to perform the raising-step when you initially pulled away.
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No, I made sure it was all thawed-out before I left - had the window fully down and up before closing the door to set out etc as I've been here before with these. I've got some bright yellow gorilla tape on it, so hopefully that holds until they can get the glass.mik wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:17 pm<shrugs>Ascender wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:25 pm
The weird thing is, I opened the door, left the car to heat up, cleared out the channels etc, closed ok. Went to the village, came back, then closed the door and it cracked when back in the channel. So not sure what happened exactly.
I assume the glass (normally) does the frameless-window routine of dropping 10mm or so when you open the door, and raising to it's final seal position again when you close it? If so it could be related to that, as the glass possibly couldn't drop when you opened the door originally, and therefore didn't need to perform the raising-step when you initially pulled away.![]()
<shrug> was my reaction too tbh!
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Mike, does the Dakar have the thinner glass which is optional on normal 911s?
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Some of it is, yes. Or all of it might be. I'm not sure but the thought did occur that this might be part of the issue...Jobbo wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:26 pm Mike, does the Dakar have the thinner glass which is optional on normal 911s?
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Could just be a defect in the glass, which has let go following a few very cold to hot cycles.
How about not having a sig at all?
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Having just googled it, the lightweight glass is actually made of 5 layers laminated, so it's not just thinner glass. I'd have thought it would be more resistant to cracking rather than less.
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Porsche just sent over the build sheet for my car...
"Lightweight glazing made of compound glass and acoustic film, for windscreen, door- and rear window. Offers a weight advantage over 4 kg and improved interior acoustics by minimising external noise such as rolling and wind noise. Tinted glazing on the rear side windows and rear window."
@Jobbo - You're right... I hadn't really considered it or looked into it before, I just knew it was a weight saving measure.
I'll be keeping the hairdryer on standby from now on when its this cold.
Autoglass have no idea
"Lightweight glazing made of compound glass and acoustic film, for windscreen, door- and rear window. Offers a weight advantage over 4 kg and improved interior acoustics by minimising external noise such as rolling and wind noise. Tinted glazing on the rear side windows and rear window."
@Jobbo - You're right... I hadn't really considered it or looked into it before, I just knew it was a weight saving measure.
I'll be keeping the hairdryer on standby from now on when its this cold.
Autoglass have no idea
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Huh. Lightweight, not strengthened. An off-road car that uses materials less tough than the on-road equivalent ?
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Dunno, it was an Aliexpress special ! Do your own research
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I think the laminated layers mean it's stronger? But also lighter? Or just behaves differently because Autoglass have asked if it cracked or shattered.... laminated layers will crack.Sundayjumper wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:07 pm Huh. Lightweight, not strengthened. An off-road car that uses materials less tough than the on-road equivalent ?
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4Kg over the standad glass? What's the standard glass made of? Lead?
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What year C Class ?Sundayjumper wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:08 pmDunno, it was an Aliexpress special ! Do your own research![]()
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004654908438.html
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W205 2016.Sundayjumper wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:41 pmWhat year C Class ?Sundayjumper wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:08 pmDunno, it was an Aliexpress special ! Do your own research![]()
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004654908438.html
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Have you ever picked up a windscreen? They’re pretty heavy!
Thinner glass has been a thing on performance cars for a long while
Actually makes good sense on a dakar which will already weigh more and have a higher centre of gravity than a standard one, and probably more road noise from the tyres too!
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Just got home after popping to the shops to find a little rain shower has transformed my drive into a full ice rink of black ice. Ask me how I know 
Turned into drive, obviously low speed, wheels locked, car slid and I slightly crashed into my house. Wheely bin took the brunt of the impact fortunately so doesn’t appear to be too much damage done, will know full extent in daylight
Turned into drive, obviously low speed, wheels locked, car slid and I slightly crashed into my house. Wheely bin took the brunt of the impact fortunately so doesn’t appear to be too much damage done, will know full extent in daylight
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Fun fact - my old Lupo GTi had thinner glass than a standard Lupo! For weight saving, obs. You don't need a Dakar for these kind of performance kinks.integrale_evo wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:36 pmHave you ever picked up a windscreen? They’re pretty heavy!
Thinner glass has been a thing on performance cars for a long while
Actually makes good sense on a dakar which will already weigh more and have a higher centre of gravity than a standard one, and probably more road noise from the tyres too!
It wasn't that it was a thing, but 4KG? Just sounds like a lot.