Interesting tow cars

Foz · Post by **Foz** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:18 am

So I want a new daily/tow car, I saw the current RS6 can be fitted with a factory deployable towbar, but its only rated to 2100kg, which is below the plated weight of my trailer - 2400kg so technically illegal..

I also want to get a shuttle anyway which may increase the weight.

Other than the usual big British/German 4x4 stuff with the 3500kg rating is anyone aware of anything interesting that has a decent tow rating?

No defenders

Sundayjumper · Post by **Sundayjumper** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:23 am

You won't get 3500kg with any kind of saloon / estate, you will need a large 4x4.

"Interesting", if you don't want German or Jap, probably means something American.

Foz · Post by **Foz** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:33 am

The A6 Allroad is 2500kg but its a bit #jobbo

Jobbo · Post by **Jobbo** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:45 am

Foz wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:33 am The A6 Allroad is 2500kg but its a bit #jobbo

Get it with big wheels and painted plastic arches if you want it to be a bit less me

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 6038627976
or
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 9051912594

drcarlos · Post by **drcarlos** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:45 am

Amarok or Merc Pickup V6, older Navara V6 (made in Thailand so Chassis is not an issue and the 3.2 V6 doesn't suffer the big issues of the 2.5).

The newer 2.4 pickups are all a bit feeble, the 2.5's are just cooking models really.

Foz · Post by **Foz** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:52 am

Jobbo wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:45 am
Foz wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:33 am The A6 Allroad is 2500kg but its a bit #jobbo
Get it with big wheels and painted plastic arches if you want it to be a bit less me

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 6038627976
or
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 9051912594

the BiTdi engine is the one to have but bet they are like hens teeth!

Foz · Post by **Foz** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:57 am

drcarlos wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:45 am Amarok or Merc Pickup V6, older Navara V6 (made in Thailand so Chassis is not an issue and the 3.2 V6 doesn't suffer the big issues of the 2.5).

The newer 2.4 pickups are all a bit feeble, the 2.5's are just cooking models really.

yeah a pickup could go through the business actually although i always through the benefits were fairly marginal..

scotta · Post by **scotta** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:00 am

From the experience of towing the race shuttle with the XJR - Just dont.

one the way back from a race weekend we had a massive moment. Crosswind caught the trailer and the resultant weave took us out of the lane we were in without control back and forth between the lanes. Most scared in a car ive ever been. Honestly though we were going in to the central barriers. so much so i had pulled the seatbelt as tight as i could get it to go.

Stick with a 4x4 SUV/pickup.

Sundayjumper · Post by **Sundayjumper** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:01 am

How much is a shuttle going to weigh fully loaded ? Probably over two tonnes ? I'd always prefer to have capacity to spare [1] so while the A6 might be legal at 2400kg you'll probably find it struggles a bit [2]

Another factor if you're getting a shuttle is that with big boxy trailers it really helps the stability of the whole thing to have a large towing vehicle punching a hole in the air and the trailer in the slipstream.

So I guess what I'm saying is: don't compromise. Get the RS6 as a daily, and a mental Yank truck for towing.

[1] Hence a 16ft trailer and a 5.0 V10 to tow an E36 Compact

[2] I borrowed my neighbour's Defender 90 Td5 recently , it's rated to 3500kg but even at less than half of that it was painfully slow. But perfectly legal.

Jobbo · Post by **Jobbo** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:21 am

Foz wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:52 am
Jobbo wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:45 am
Foz wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:33 am The A6 Allroad is 2500kg but its a bit #jobbo
Get it with big wheels and painted plastic arches if you want it to be a bit less me

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 6038627976
or
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 9051912594
the BiTdi engine is the one to have but bet they are like hens teeth!

The BiTDi isn't *that* rare - and I'd agree, it's the one to have mainly for the 8sp ZF automatic rather than 7sp S-Tronic DSG gearbox. Torque converter for the towing win.

mik · Post by **mik** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:56 am

Canyonaro?

The Disco3 and Disco4 are on your list of "obvious choicues" I am sure, but are awesome towcars.

jamcg · Post by **jamcg** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:11 pm

Porsche Cayenne turbo? 3500kg towing capacity

RobYob · Post by **RobYob** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:12 pm

Unusual you say....

Ford Territory F6X. 2500kgs with HD tow pack + eminently tunable.

Choice of 2 on the market

ZedLeg · Post by **ZedLeg** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:19 pm

My mate's dad has a Power Stroke F350 for towing cars for shows etc. It's a big old thing but it'd probably pull your house down if you wanted it to

.

He was talking about putting a fifth wheel on it and getting one of those ridiculous giant trailers with living space and car storage. Don't know if he ever got round to it though.

DeskJockey · Post by **DeskJockey** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:22 pm

Chevy?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... obcid=soc3

Could probably fit the race car in the boot, so no need to tow.

Broccers · Post by **Broccers** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:28 pm

Range rover

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Range-Rover- ... SwjG1dZw2v

V8Granite · Post by **V8Granite** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:36 pm

It depends what kind of distances you want to tow. Plus where you want to tow.

For stability and being able to just sit at 60 all day long the Defender is great, but around Aberdeen and slow speeds and steep hills it would be a pain, just not enough power.

I’ve only towed with a Hilux and it was pretty rubbish, it just didn’t seem to have much traction.

What about a nicely specced GL or a D4 ?

Dave!

Sundayjumper · Post by **Sundayjumper** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:46 pm

Broccers wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:28 pm Range rover

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Range-Rover- ... SwjG1dZw2v

ChippedUK ? No thanks !!

Sundayjumper · Post by **Sundayjumper** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:54 pm

V8Granite wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:36 pm For stability and being able to just sit at 60 all day long the Defender is great...

As long as it's a light trailer and there's absolutely no hills. I was driving this a couple of weeks ago, the trailer is basically an empty box with a desk in it, so not heavy at all, and on a slight incline (the A3 south out of Guildford if anyone knows it) it wouldn't top 40mph. With the full 3500kg it probably would have been down to first gear

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Sundayjumper · Post by **Sundayjumper** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:54 pm

The Chevy is more what I had in mind

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