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I watched this https://youtu.be/bhIB_MmK4fw last night (ff a few bits) and was thinking how much do they actually make per hour?

Good job tho.

It used to be all on the website but its £POA now. IIRC it was about a minimum of £350 + vat per panel excluding vat and all the materials.

What I find crazy is that a detail and PPF now costs a minimum of £10k in London whereas it was half of that 5 years ago. I guess it’s still relatively peanuts on something costing a few hundred grand but on your random M car or non GT 911 it’s a bit crazy, especially when it needs redoing every 5-7 years.

Must admit to really enjoying the White Details YT vids

Mito Man wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:22 pm What I find crazy is that a detail and PPF now costs a minimum of £10k in London

Hahaha, does it fuck.

ste wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:45 pm

Mito Man wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:22 pm What I find crazy is that a detail and PPF now costs a minimum of £10k in London

Hahaha, does it fuck.

I believe this is what Topaz are charging for a "level 5" detail whatever the fvck that is and full PPF. There some chatter on PH about it from some bloke who says he's had 50 cars done by them. Good business by the looks of it.

Not a bad wage for a few days manual labour

If only cars came painted from the factory, eh.

Painted yes.

Insta-ready. No.

JLv3.0 wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:25 pm Must admit to really enjoying the White Details YT vids

Likewise.

I also like the Car Cleaning Guru one too.

I find them quite relaxing and enjoyable to watch. It's amazing the results some people can achieve....

tim wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:51 pm

ste wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:45 pm

Mito Man wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:22 pm What I find crazy is that a detail and PPF now costs a minimum of £10k in London

Hahaha, does it fuck.

I believe this is what Topaz are charging for a "level 5" detail whatever the fvck that is and full PPF.

Ah yeah true, and that actually is the minimum level of service that can be obtained in London.

DaveE wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:42 pmI also like the Car Cleaning Guru one too.

I find them quite relaxing and enjoyable to watch. It's amazing the results some people can achieve....

Not a huge fan of CCG for some reason, but WD is indeed very relaxing to watch. Got to admire their patience and dedication tbh.

As usual, a lot of them charge what they can get away with charging, and a lot like a lot of the high end boutique detailing products people like to think that as they're paying so much they're getting the very best.

Then after the expensive treatments most of them get treated like crap and the whole lot has to be repeated after a year or so

integrale_evo wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:27 pm As usual, a lot of them charge what they can get away with charging, and a lot like a lot of the high end boutique detailing products people like to think that as they're paying so much they're getting the very best.

Then after the expensive treatments most of them get treated like crap and the whole lot has to be repeated after a year or so

See couture brands, it’s expensive therefore must be good!

I’ve been looking at a full paint correction and ceramic coating, that’s coming out at about £1,300 for a proper job. £10k is staggering!

Orange Cola wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:09 pm I’ve been looking at a full paint correction and ceramic coating, that’s coming out at about £1,300 for a proper job. £10k is staggering!

Just paid £595 for a new protection detail and ceramic coating. So 1300 for correction included seems steep

Swervin_Mervin wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:48 pm

Orange Cola wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:09 pm I’ve been looking at a full paint correction and ceramic coating, that’s coming out at about £1,300 for a proper job. £10k is staggering!

Just paid £595 for a new protection detail and ceramic coating. So 1300 for correction included seems steep

Works out about the same when you consider that a full correction requires about 2-3 times more work than a new car prep...

Mito Man wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:13 pm

Swervin_Mervin wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:48 pm

Orange Cola wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:09 pm I’ve been looking at a full paint correction and ceramic coating, that’s coming out at about £1,300 for a proper job. £10k is staggering!

Just paid £595 for a new protection detail and ceramic coating. So 1300 for correction included seems steep

Works out about the same when you consider that a full correction requires about 2-3 times more work than a new car prep...

Yep, can take just over a week to do a proper job, 90% of it being in the preparation so the worse the paint is to start with the longer it’ll take.

Shouldn't take that long unless the car's a feckin mess and has been washed all it's life with a brillo pad

When I’ve done a new car detail one quick pass with a light polish is enough for 99% of it. As soon as you have something which has done a few thousand miles you really need a two stage job to do it properly and the cutting stage takes much longer than a quick pass to finish it. When cutting you really need to tape up much more of the car too, the pads are much harder so you end up having to use smaller ones to fit the curves of the car better. It’s a lot more work.

Took me 2 days on my 330 to wash, clay, 2 stage correction and wax. That's with a fraction of the gear, outside, and on a 60k+ mile 7yr old car that looked like it had never seen any polish before.

I can't see how it would take a pro, with all the gear, experience, enclosed space, working on a much younger less damaged car, over a week.