A bit geeky, but couldn't help comparing the Senna acceleration times in this weeks recent Autocar against the old F1.
So to 100mph the Senna is 0.9sec quicker, to 150mph the Senna is 2.0sec quicker, to 180mph the Senna is just 0.5 sec quicker. Standing kilometre it's only 0.8 seconds quicker.
So off the line the Senna is faster (helped by stickier tyres and quicker box) but over 100mph there's nothing in it.
A quarter of a century older yet still mightily impressive
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:37 pm
by Carlos
It doesn't look right, how can the F1 pull back 1.5 sec between 150-180 ?
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:38 pm
by Holley
better aero I'd guess
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:41 pm
by Mito Man
Or lack of aero.
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:48 pm
by GG.
Reminds me of this:
Toasted a bug all the way up to far side of 150mph.
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:51 pm
by ZedLeg
Mito Man wrote: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:41 pm
Or lack of aero.
That, I bet the Senna's more downforce oriented aero creates a lot more drag than the F1's.
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:03 pm
by Foz
I really really dislike the senna, it looks awful, regardless of budget I wouldn't have one.
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:12 pm
by mik
Foz wrote: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:03 pm
I really really dislike the senna, it looks awful, regardless of budget I wouldn't have one.
Very much that.
I currently have a 720S in my head as a "lottery win fun car", despite the fact I am only warm on the looks and it isn't manuel. The stats just grab me.....
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:00 pm
by Foz
720 doesn’t do much for me either, the P1 and 675 LT do though!
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:04 pm
by JLv3.0
Yep same here, the 720 is a monster but doesn't grab me down there. And I can't stand the Senna.
Opinions that McLaren need not worry about too much
Mito Man wrote: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:41 pm
Or lack of aero.
That, I bet the Senna's more downforce oriented aero creates a lot more drag than the F1's.
This. The F1 would be toast on a circuit, but is and will always remain a wonderful thing.
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:56 pm
by Maurice
Foz wrote: Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:00 pm
720 doesn’t do much for me either, the P1 and 675 LT do though!
I think the 600LT is the pick of the bunch for me currently. Absolutely love them, albeit the entire modern range pale in comparison to the F1.
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:34 pm
by Foz
The 750 LT will obviously be awesumz
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:37 pm
by IanF
Mate’s picking up his 570S next Tuesday. There’s a McLaren dealership in the village, so have driven a couple helping him choose. (Yes, I am a GREAT mate!)
All McLarens need close inspection to see their exquisite and intricate genius. I’d have a 720S tomorrow.
Oh, saw this drive through Ascot earlier this week. Far worse looking imho.
As it is John Collins, owner of Talacrest, and he also picked up his LaFerrari prototype this month, I imagine his eyes a quite dry.
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:15 pm
by duncs500
Saw a 570S spider locally the other week and thought it looked great TBH. I'd have one over 488.
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:55 pm
by Coaster1
I like what Mclaren is doing and love the LTs, but Ferrari > Mclaren so 458 speciale / Italia for me thank you please.
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:55 pm
by Richard
IanF wrote: Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:37 pm
Mate’s picking up his 570S next Tuesday. There’s a McLaren dealership in the village, so have driven a couple helping him choose. (Yes, I am a GREAT mate!)
All McLarens need close inspection to see their exquisite and intricate genius. I’d have a 720S tomorrow.
Oh, saw this drive through Ascot earlier this week. Far worse looking imho.
As it is John Collins, owner of Talacrest, and he also picked up his LaFerrari prototype this month, I imagine his eyes a quite dry.
Paul Chuckle, is that you?
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:00 pm
by JLv3.0
If I owned Talacrest, I could look like the Elephant Man and not GAF. Google them
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:44 pm
by Foz
I remember nipping there when working at heathrow, not far from the main Ferrari maranello place at Egham.
Both of which seemed surprisingly helpful considering I wasn’t in a position to buy and was just having a look st the time, F40 was about 150/200k iirc (talking 2001/2002)
Re: Macca Stats
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:32 am
by unzippy
GG. wrote: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:48 pm
Reminds me of this:
Toasted a bug all the way up to far side of 150mph.
