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I was walking past a house earlier with a 14 year old Mazda people carrier thing on the drive, four flat tyres and covered in green slime. I thought to myself no one is going to bother going to the cost and effort of putting that back on the road and that got me thinking further. What cars used to exist but don’t any more because they just weren’t worth restoring or keeping?

Virtually every Vauxhall model pre 2000, nova, corsa b, Carlton, senator, cavaliers, early vectra

Nope, you still get those at the occasional car club meet. They’re also the ones worth saving.

jamcg wrote: ↑Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:14 pm Virtually every Vauxhall model pre 2000, nova, corsa b, Carlton, senator, cavaliers, early vectra

you couldn’t be more wrong - they all have an obsessive following - particularly GSI models.

When was the last time you saw a Ford Orion?

MPVs don't seem to be selling anymore

Nathan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:34 pm MPVs don't seem to be selling anymore

Good.

Simon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:04 pm

Nathan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:34 pm MPVs don't seem to be selling anymore

Good.

full size ones like galaxies are a lot less common, but the mid size mpv is more abundant than ever.

The figures show that small SUVs have displaced the Zafira/Picasso/Scenic

Nathan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:22 pm The figures show that small SUVs have displaced the Zafira/Picasso/Scenic

Your figures again? The same set that said Jaguar couldn’t make enough x types to hit demand?!

Or figures show that parents with more than 3 kids are dumping one in the boot. Or that people have less sex now.

Rich B wrote: ↑Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:42 pm

Nathan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:22 pm The figures show that small SUVs have displaced the Zafira/Picasso/Scenic

Your figures again? The same set that said Jaguar couldn’t make enough x types to hit demand?!

Seriously, where does he get these figures from?

JLv3.0 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:08 pm

Rich B wrote: ↑Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:42 pm

Nathan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:22 pm The figures show that small SUVs have displaced the Zafira/Picasso/Scenic

Your figures again? The same set that said Jaguar couldn’t make enough x types to hit demand?!

Seriously, where does he get these figures from?

I believe he uses the formula commonly used on Countdown to generate his base answer, one off the top and any other five. Insurance companies use it too.

Why doesn't he just post up his source and be done with it?

I don't understand anything.

Because his sources are Daily Mail articles banned from Wikipedia.

Rich B wrote: ↑Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:42 pm

Nathan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:22 pm The figures show that small SUVs have displaced the Zafira/Picasso/Scenic

Your figures again? The same set that said Jaguar couldn’t make enough x types to hit demand?!

What are you on about ?

I said before that you don't see many Jag XE's about compared to the 3 Series and C Class.

Sources : common sense seeing them on the road, auction sales records, numbers advertised on AutoTrader, howmanyleft and http://carsalesbase.com/european-car-sa ... el-zafira/

Nathan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:29 pm

Rich B wrote: ↑Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:42 pm

Nathan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:22 pm The figures show that small SUVs have displaced the Zafira/Picasso/Scenic

Your figures again? The same set that said Jaguar couldn’t make enough x types to hit demand?!

What are you on about ?

I said before that you don't see many Jag XE's about compared to the 3 Series and C Class.

Sources : common sense seeing them on the road, auction sales records, numbers advertised on AutoTrader, howmanyleft and http://carsalesbase.com/european-car-sa ... el-zafira/

i think you’ll find the exact words you used were:

“They couldn't make enough S Types, X Types and early XF's back in the day.”

Oh and the fact that Ford have dropped the B-Max and C-Max in favour of small SUVs, the same as Citroen/Peugeout, Mercedes changed the body type of the A Class years ago etc

Also SSMT figures show small MPV sales dropped 20% in 2017, whereas small SUV's grew at the same rate :

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/indu ... car-market

Rich B wrote: ↑Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:59 pm

Nathan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:29 pm

Rich B wrote: ↑Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:42 pm Your figures again? The same set that said Jaguar couldn’t make enough x types to hit demand?!

What are you on about ?

I said before that you don't see many Jag XE's about compared to the 3 Series and C Class.

Sources : common sense seeing them on the road, auction sales records, numbers advertised on AutoTrader, howmanyleft and http://carsalesbase.com/european-car-sa ... el-zafira/

i think you’ll find the exact words you used were:

“They couldn't make enough S Types, X Types and early XF's back in the day.”

I stand by that : they were more popular back then.

Look at the figures of the X Type vs the XE.

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=%E2 ... mit=Search

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=%E2 ... =jaguar+xe

Rich B wrote: ↑Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:59 pm

Nathan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:29 pm

Rich B wrote: ↑Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:42 pm Your figures again? The same set that said Jaguar couldn’t make enough x types to hit demand?!

What are you on about ?

I said before that you don't see many Jag XE's about compared to the 3 Series and C Class.

Sources : common sense seeing them on the road, auction sales records, numbers advertised on AutoTrader, howmanyleft and http://carsalesbase.com/european-car-sa ... el-zafira/

i think you’ll find the exact words you used were:

“They couldn't make enough S Types, X Types and early XF's back in the day.”

Yep and it's utter BS. Jag didn't make a profit until very recently. If you expect me to believe a company still couldn't turn a profit when demand was supposedly out stripping supply then you think we're all a bunch of mugs.