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Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:47 pm
by mik
Heinz ketchup ad on the TV just there showing someone frying bacon and moving it round the pan with a (metal) fork.

“Metal utensils” include, but are not limited to spatulas, spoons, forks, knives, ladels, whisks, sawn-off shotguns, etc.

Would you use them in a non-stick pan/pot???

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:49 pm
by RobYob
You forgot "I am sofaking Evo I only ever cook with cast iron heavy enough to kill with"

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:51 pm
by mik
RobYob wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:49 pm You forgot "I am sofaking Evo I only ever cook with cast iron heavy enough to kill with"
See 4

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:54 pm
by Matty
Where's the option of "I've got someone to cook for me" (private chef/restaurant/wife/husband/parents/slave) delete as appropriate

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:06 pm
by jamcg
I have a mrs hinch pan from Tesco that the mrs bought a few years ago. I expected nothing from it but it’s been brilliant- and stays that way because rule 1

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:08 pm
by jamcg
mik wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:47 pm Heinz ketchup ad on the TV just there showing someone frying bacon and moving it round the pan with a (metal) fork
Also do we need a poll for how you cook your bacon fry/grill/airfry/microwave/oven/pay Greggs to cook it

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:13 pm
by mik
jamcg wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:08 pm
mik wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:47 pm Heinz ketchup ad on the TV just there showing someone frying bacon and moving it round the pan with a (metal) fork
Also do we need a poll for how you cook your bacon fry/grill/airfry/microwave/oven/pay Greggs to cook it
I give you permission to start one.

The correct answer is of course in a pan, but you put the bacon in whilst it’s cold (the pan) - hence it doesn’t wrinkle and make rendering the fat a nightmare.

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:35 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
mik wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:13 pm
jamcg wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:08 pm
mik wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:47 pm Heinz ketchup ad on the TV just there showing someone frying bacon and moving it round the pan with a (metal) fork
Also do we need a poll for how you cook your bacon fry/grill/airfry/microwave/oven/pay Greggs to cook it
I give you permission to start one.

The correct answer is of course in a pan, but you put the bacon in whilst it’s cold (the pan) - hence it doesn’t wrinkle and make rendering the fat a nightmare.
It doesn't wrinkle if you use a press/pan/weight on top.

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:40 pm
by IanF
Only metal utensil I use is the spatula.. nothing else works aswell with eggs (omelette/fried)

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:54 pm
by mik
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:35 pm

It doesn't wrinkle if you use a press/pan/weight on top.
Metal press/pan/weight ? :shock:

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 6:28 am
by Jobbo
I think I am the only person in our household who agrees with you, but you are correct Mik. I have trained everyone else not to use my decent non-stick pans as a consequence. I do keep one big stainless steel pan for cooking mashed potato because I’ve never found plastic mashers to be very good; too flexible.

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:28 am
by duncs500
Option 1 obviously.

I don't tend to cook my bacon anywhere other than the gas bbq.

I like it that way, although it has converted me to using streaky bacon as that goes best on it and it comes out with the perfect texture. If I was doing it inside I'd just do it in a pan, but I prefer not to as it makes a mess and it's just generally unpleasant for the wife (her being vegan), plus bbq is always more fun.

While we're on bacon, I saw a tip online to roll up individual rashers and freeze them in a zip lock and I use that now. Pretty handy if like me, you're the only person in the house that eats bacon. It's there ready in as small a quantity as I need.

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:29 am
by Gavster
I will happily use metal (very carefully) in non-stick if I CBA to find the appropriate wood/plastic alternativein that moment. Having said that, I got a whole set of stainless pans so I could be as rough as I wanted and they'll still outlast me, unlike non-stick which need replacing every 5-10 years.

Having said that, I need to buy a non-stick frying pan because eggs and fish will stick very easily in a stainless pan, even after lots of testing with pre-heating temperatures, oils, etc etc. I still cannot get an omelet to release from a stainless pan. Non-stick is simply way, way easier.

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:51 am
by dinny_g
Metal spatula… carefully… only. No other metal used.

But I try to use Cast Iron as much as possible. I’ve got 4 of them. I also only use hard anodised roasting trays and you can go to town with metal utensils on both

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:04 am
by Jobbo
duncs500 wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:28 am I don't tend to cook my bacon anywhere other than the gas bbq.
Same here, though if it's raining I'll do it under the grill. Don't rate pan-fried bacon; it needs to be on a large griddle or similar.

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:18 am
by V8Granite
duncs500 wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:28 am Option 1 obviously.

I don't tend to cook my bacon anywhere other than the gas bbq.

I like it that way, although it has converted me to using streaky bacon as that goes best on it and it comes out with the perfect texture. If I was doing it inside I'd just do it in a pan, but I prefer not to as it makes a mess and it's just generally unpleasant for the wife (her being vegan), plus bbq is always more fun.

While we're on bacon, I saw a tip online to roll up individual rashers and freeze them in a zip lock and I use that now. Pretty handy if like me, you're the only person in the house that eats bacon. It's there ready in as small a quantity as I need.
I’ve read this a few times but am struggling to understand the part in bold ?

Rolled up bacon, only streaky, done in the oven is particularly lovely as a one mouthful treat, done multiple times.

Bacon under the grill, sausages under the grill, mince, steak in the frying pan, mince must be 20% fat and then you don’t need any tallow or butter. Steak seasoned with salt, cooked in butter once the butter goes frothy.

Metal utensils are ok but not much pressure applied. We have tried some cheap and expensive non stick stuff and the “expensive” stuff from Tescos does the best, I think
It was £18. 3 years in, used at least twice a day and the only thing we have had to do is tighten the handle.

Dave!

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:21 am
by mik
duncs500 wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:28 am I don't tend to cook my bacon anywhere other than the gas bbq.

I like it that way, although it has converted me to using streaky bacon as that goes best on it and it comes out with the perfect texture.
PiggerySmokery artisan bacon converted me to Streaky too. (That business venture sadly closed now - due to health issues apparently :( )

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:25 am
by Explosive Newt
mik wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:21 am
PiggerySmokery artisan bacon converted me to Streaky too. (That business venture sadly closed now - due to health issues apparently :( )
Health of sellers or… of buyers?

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:28 am
by V8Granite
Explosive Newt wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:25 am
mik wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:21 am
PiggerySmokery artisan bacon converted me to Streaky too. (That business venture sadly closed now - due to health issues apparently :( )
Health of sellers or… of buyers?
Don’t you dare say anything about bacon mother trucker!!

Dave!

Re: Metal utensils in non-stick pans

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:31 am
by mik
Explosive Newt wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:25 am
mik wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:21 am
PiggerySmokery artisan bacon converted me to Streaky too. (That business venture sadly closed now - due to health issues apparently :( )
Health of sellers or… of buyers?
Started as Piggery Smokery : online artisan bacon sales. Bloody marvellous it was.

Then they started a family-run cafe in their locale which easily consumed (pun intended) all the bacon they could make - which effectively shut down the online sales :cry:

And that has also now closed. It's a generally sad state of affairs. :(

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/ne ... ug-closes/