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Choppers
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:06 pm
by mik
Speaking to a couple of colleagues, I realised that suspicion of helicopters appears to be a thing, over and above any fear of flying.
I've been in a 'copter <5 times, but once was a flying lesson (Robinson R22) which was both epic

and humbling - being asked at the conclusion of the lesson to hold it in a hover at about 20m from terra firma had me

-ing in less than 10 seconds as I clumsily tried to react to the movements of the aircraft due to the wind (or over-corrected initial control inputs I had made) and we got progressively out of shape - the pilot took over as we were pointing (what felt like) about 60 degrees nose-down and in one big control movement brought us dead-level again

Re: Choppers
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:16 pm
by Zonda_
Never been in one but it wouldnβt stop me. If you want a good book, read my mates book Sweating the Metal, he flew Chinooks in Afghanistan. His tales of learning resemble your first lesson.
Re: Choppers
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:18 pm
by RobYob
They're CAF. Mate of mine spent his redundancy money getting his Heli license and I'm deeply envious.
Future me might go for that brand new rideable quadcopter though. Or flying man jetpack.
Re: Choppers
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:24 pm
by dinny_g
11. I'm a Grifter man myself...
Re: Choppers
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:26 pm
by mik
dinny_g wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:24 pm
11. I'm a Grifter man myself...
<kicks self for missing this opportunity>

Re: Choppers
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:37 pm
by McSwede
I've been in one once but was strapped to a back board being fiddled with by a paramedic

I do remember it being a very smooth ride and landing

Re: Choppers
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:26 pm
by Mito Man
I'm ok with a few leisure flights but if I were rich enough to use as a semi regular form of transport it would be a no. I'm sure they're probably so safe that statistically you're more likely to die from peeling a carrot but they do seem to kill an awful lot of rich people...
Re: Choppers
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:36 pm
by DaveE
Even the people who make helicopters aren't all that confident with them
That's why, when you buy one they come with wheels, floats, and skis
So that you have a fighting chance wherever you come down...
Re: Choppers
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:25 pm
by Jimmy Choo
I had a Mk2 Chopper in the period between when they were new and cool and when they were retro and cool.
As for Helicopters, I can also recommend the book Chickenhawks.
Re: Choppers
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:21 pm
by Zonda_
DaveE wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:36 pm
Even the people who make helicopters aren't all that confident with them
That's why, when you buy one they come with wheels, floats, and skis
So that you have a fighting chance wherever you come down...
You've been listening to Dave Gunson

Re: Choppers
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:27 pm
by IanF
I know three people whoβve crashed one (one fatally) and I know lots more who fly fixed wing, but only 2 people have crashed them.. Iβve flown in a few but only flown a S76 which to me is a proper helicopter as it has lots of safety features to prevent disasters happening. Stay away from Robinsonβs or any other single engine death machines!
Re: Choppers
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:14 pm
by DaveE
Zonda_ wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:21 pm
DaveE wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:36 pm
Even the people who make helicopters aren't all that confident with them
That's why, when you buy one they come with wheels, floats, and skis
So that you have a fighting chance wherever you come down...
You've been listening to Dave Gunson
What goes up...
I remember hearing it on a cassette YEARS ago
Think I've got an mp3 somewhere
Some of it hasn't aged well!
Re: Choppers
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:23 pm
by V8Granite
I used to transfer from the airport to site in a Huey flown by ex South African defence force pilots, that was awesome as they had side facing seats.
Flew around in a Chinook when in cadets doing Combat Cadet, Chinooks rock.
Lots of helicopters going to oil rigs also.
Aslong as I donβt have to be in a survival suit, helicopters all the way.
Dave!
Re: Choppers
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:33 am
by duncs500
I'm sure some years ago I looked up some statistics on this. Of course relative to most other modes of transport the death rate is incredibly low, but IIRC once you factor in deaths per mile travelled or similar they are pretty bad.
Re: Choppers
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:34 am
by duncs500
Wouldn't stop me getting in one for teh lolz, but possibly would be more nervous if my family were travelling around in them.
Re: Choppers
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:40 am
by tim
Angry clothes dryers are fun. Until they're not. I did an autorotation in one, which was far smoother than I thought it would be.
Re: Choppers
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:44 am
by Zonda_
DaveE wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:14 pm
Zonda_ wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:21 pm
DaveE wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:36 pm
Even the people who make helicopters aren't all that confident with them
That's why, when you buy one they come with wheels, floats, and skis
So that you have a fighting chance wherever you come down...
You've been listening to Dave Gunson
What goes up...
I remember hearing it on a cassette YEARS ago
Think I've got an mp3 somewhere
Some of it hasn't aged well!
I managed to find it on CD from ebay!
Re: Choppers
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:57 am
by mik
McSwede wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:37 pm
I've been in one once but was strapped to a back board being fiddled with by a paramedic

I do remember it being a very smooth ride and landing
More information / storytelling required here.

Re: Choppers
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:04 pm
by McSwede
mik wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:57 am
McSwede wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:37 pm
I've been in one once but was strapped to a back board being fiddled with by a paramedic

I do remember it being a very smooth ride and landing
More information / storytelling required here.
I was passenger in my cousin's new kit car (Caterham type) and we had a massive whoopsie. We spun across the road at a fair old speed, hit the concrete end of an Armco barrier and the car flipped end over end. Somehow on impact I hit the harness release and exited the car like Superman, went through a massive hawthorn bush and landed in a ditch, the car then landed on top of me. I can vaguely remember being under it and hearing/feeling people lift it off me. Next thing I remember was being in the air ambulance with suspected broken back/neck.
Luckily I only had scrapes and bruises and a few big thorns stuck in my head and body. Cousin stayed in the car but shattered a vertibrae on landing and was paralysed

. I can remember being laid in the crash room at the hospital when they brought him in and hearing him talking about loss of feeling/sensation from the chest down.
I didn't know my name or where I'd been or any phone numbers so it was a few hours before our families knew where we were or what happened to us.
Re: Choppers
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:10 pm
by mik
McSwede wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:04 pm
mik wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:57 am
McSwede wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:37 pm
I've been in one once but was strapped to a back board being fiddled with by a paramedic

I do remember it being a very smooth ride and landing
More information / storytelling required here.
I was passenger in my cousin's new kit car (Caterham type) and we had a massive whoopsie. We spun across the road at a fair old speed, hit the concrete end of an Armco barrier and the car flipped end over end. Somehow on impact I hit the harness release and exited the car like Superman, went through a massive hawthorn bush and landed in a ditch, the car then landed on top of me. I can vaguely remember being under it and hearing/feeling people lift it off me. Next thing I remember was being in the air ambulance with suspected broken back/neck.
Luckily I only had scrapes and bruises and a few big thorns stuck in my head and body. Cousin stayed in the car but shattered a vertibrae on landing and was paralysed

. I can remember being laid in the crash room at the hospital when they brought him in and hearing him talking about loss of feeling/sensation from the chest down.
I didn't know my name or where I'd been or any phone numbers so it was a few hours before our families knew where we were or what happened to us.
Wow
Did your cousin recover, or permanent paralysis?
