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Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:19 pm
by ZedLeg
Yeah, diplomats don’t get paid as much as you’d think do they.
The carrot must be the hope of an ambassadorial or cabinet post.
Just increase their allowance.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:25 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
ZedLeg wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:19 pm
Yeah, diplomats don’t get paid as much as you’d think do they.
The carrot must be the hope of an ambassadorial or cabinet post.
Just increase their allowance.
Oh yeah, I'm fine with that. I just can't get my head around not increasing their allowance and, instead, asking a business to now give a discount to cover the increase!
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:31 pm
by Mito Man
Bear in mind the foreign office pays up to 90% of the school fee.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:36 pm
by ZedLeg
The percentage they pay should stay the same, increase the payment to make it work.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:13 pm
by Gavster
V8Granite wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 2:02 pm
ZedLeg wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:40 pm
Definitely won’t cause a food crisis in about 5 years
Remember that solar farms on good land gives them a special certificate that says they are saving the planet, food is very last year.
Dave!
It's not that, it's because having a solar farm creates a consistent income stream that can be higher per acre, and far less volatile than arable crops. Also the farmer doesn't need to do much either, nor worry about droughts or rains ruining their crop, because the sun comes up every day for the solar. Some farms also have animals grazing amongst the solar panels. Or maybe you'd prefer arable crops to be grown, you know wheat, barley etc the stuff you don't eat

Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:30 pm
by ZedLeg
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 5:01 pm
by Gavster
I meant to say - if a farmer's entire crop fails because of rain or drought, they make a loss for the year, simple as that. It's understandable that solar makes sense with our current high energy prices, until we crash into the sun.
But then again, it also makes sense to develop mixed farming methods so they don't rely on one single crop either.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 5:14 pm
by Mito Man
I imagine all those large solar farm projects are funded by large corporations. They cost millions to set up, I doubt even someone like Clarkson could afford the initial outlay.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 5:24 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
Mito Man wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 5:14 pm
I imagine all those large solar farm projects are funded by large corporations. They cost millions to set up, I doubt even someone like Clarkson could afford the initial outlay.
They are. Like wind farms also. The landowner will just get a "rent", for want of a better word.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 5:29 pm
by Mito Man
Is the rent a pittance? I'd imagine just chucking wild flower seeds and entering the stewardship scheme would be better and you won't end up with land which will not be tied up forever more and looking out to an eyesore.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:11 pm
by V8Granite
Gavster wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:13 pm
V8Granite wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 2:02 pm
ZedLeg wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:40 pm
Definitely won’t cause a food crisis in about 5 years
Remember that solar farms on good land gives them a special certificate that says they are saving the planet, food is very last year.
Dave!
It's not that, it's because having a solar farm creates a consistent income stream that can be higher per acre, and far less volatile than arable crops. Also the farmer doesn't need to do much either, nor worry about droughts or rains ruining their crop, because the sun comes up every day for the solar. Some farms also have animals grazing amongst the solar panels. Or maybe you'd prefer arable crops to be grown, you know wheat, barley etc the stuff you don't eat
They can put loads of bloody cows on it
(Update on weird diet, MIL now on it, big changes)
Dave!
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:27 pm
by GG.
Gavster wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 5:01 pm
But then again, it also makes sense to develop mixed farming methods so they don't rely on one single crop either.
Yes. Good idea. Until the EU banned the pesticides that made many of the alternate crops viable. Cabbage stem flea beetle decimated OSR anyone?
ETA: Sorry I keep negatively commenting on your posts Gav - don't take it personally!
P.S. if you want a collab with Wren I went to school with the son of the owner... I haven't been in touch with him for many years but could point you in the right direction to bypass their marketing department

Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:51 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
Mito Man wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 5:29 pm
Is the rent a pittance? I'd imagine just chucking wild flower seeds and entering the stewardship scheme would be better and you won't end up with land which will not be tied up forever more and looking out to an eyesore.
Clearly not a pittance! Although I do wonder how many are on inherited land because the inheritees cba
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:36 am
by Jobbo
Harry Metcalfe’s latest farm video on YouTube mentions the protests being arranged about farm APR/IHT. I wonder if Jist Stop Oil will piggyback on this because they can get a publicity benefit from any disruption without it being imprisoned, presumably.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:38 am
by ZedLeg
The latest farmer to vocally come out against the change makes £4mil a year on Youtube.
Not dodging the allegations that it’s just a bunch of rich folk avoiding tax

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Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:15 am
by Gavster
GG. wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:27 pm
Gavster wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 5:01 pm
But then again, it also makes sense to develop mixed farming methods so they don't rely on one single crop either.
Yes. Good idea. Until the EU banned the pesticides that made many of the alternate crops viable. Cabbage stem flea beetle decimated OSR anyone?
ETA: Sorry I keep negatively commenting on your posts Gav - don't take it personally!
P.S. if you want a collab with Wren I went to school with the son of the owner... I haven't been in touch with him for many years but could point you in the right direction to bypass their marketing department
I don't take it personally, it's all good to have contrary opinions

Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:43 pm
by Beany
This'll confuse the light of thinking.
https://newsthump.com/2024/11/19/man-wh ... 0000-back/
"Man who spent years insisting we should ‘send em back’ left discombobulated after learning Labour has already ‘sent 10,000 back’"
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:32 pm
by Simon
You know newsthump isn't a real news site yeah?
YEAH?
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:50 pm
by Beany
Simon Williams, Media Analyst tells me it's a more trustworthy a source than GB News!
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:05 am
by Simon
That's a low bar.