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Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:39 pm
by NotoriousREV
GG. wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:33 pm Even more pedantically, Porsche SE has >50% of the voting rights but only 30% of the economic interest in the VAG group. In addition, I believe the structure was only permitted to give Porsche SE de facto voting control as VAG management were appointed to management positions in Porsche SE to control the board. The actual Porsche AG company which makes the cars is a subsidiary of VAG as Rev notes! Slightly mind bending.
The whole story is really interesting.

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:53 pm
by Broccers

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:48 pm
by drcarlos
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:06 pm Interesting take on the Bill and Royal Prerogative: https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2019/09/ ... s-consent/
One things for sure, this thing has more twists and turns than the Pike Peak hillclimb.

I wouldn't want to call the outcome as when you think it's dead along comes something else that effects a direction change.

At this point I would rule out Martial law!

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:31 pm
by Broccers


:lol: :lol:

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:45 pm
by NotoriousREV
Johnson keeps saying he doesn’t want a General Election and yet...

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:29 pm
by Jobbo
:lol:


Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:08 pm
by NotoriousREV
Parliament and cricket use the same rule book, then?

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:12 pm
by Beany
NotoriousREV wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:08 pm Parliament and cricket use the same rule book, then?
They're both fucking bullshit.

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:23 pm
by mik
I was walkin' down the Downing street
Concentratin' on votin' right
I heard a dark voice beside of me
And I looked round in a state of fright
I saw four faces one mad
A brother from the Tory Party
They looked me up and down a bit
And turned to each other
I say
I don't like Parliament, oh no

Etc

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:24 pm
by NotoriousREV
Bill wins 329 to 300. That’s 2 more than yesterday, I think?

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:53 pm
by Orange Cola
They’re now starting to talk about the House of Lords more, they could slow the whole thing down and almost bring it to a stall there’s no feeling about the house being reported though, I.e. do they want to get on with this or do they want to stall it for their own interests.

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:20 pm
by Rich B
NotoriousREV wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:24 pm Bill wins 329 to 300. That’s 2 more than yesterday, I think?
Just 1 I think

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:12 pm
by Orange Cola
GE tabled by Boris for Tuesday 15th October. Pro-Brexit MP’s have tabled over 100 amendments for the no deal Brexit bill to try and scupper it through the House of Lords.

On it goes, more next week I guess, I can’t see this being resolved this week.

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:45 pm
by NotoriousREV
Orange Cola wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:12 pm GE tabled by Boris for Tuesday 15th October. Pro-Brexit MP’s have tabled over 100 amendments for the no deal Brexit bill to try and scupper it through the House of Lords.

On it goes, more next week I guess, I can’t see this being resolved this week.
Peers, not MPs. It’s passed the HoC so MPs can’t amend it now.

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:08 pm
by IanF
NotoriousREV wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:45 pm
Orange Cola wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:12 pm GE tabled by Boris for Tuesday 15th October. Pro-Brexit MP’s have tabled over 100 amendments for the no deal Brexit bill to try and scupper it through the House of Lords.

On it goes, more next week I guess, I can’t see this being resolved this week.
Peers, not MPs. It’s passed the HoC so MPs can’t amend it now.
How the fuck is TM’s deal back on the table? Why is it on the table? Why didn’t the government even count the votes on the Kinnock amendment? Will this merry-go-round ever stop!? 🤪

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:58 pm
by Jobbo
Boris defeated three times in his first three votes. Unless he resigns, he’s seeing this through. Against his will and with no majority.

Great plan, Cummings.

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:00 pm
by NotoriousREV
HoL have so far voted on 8 of the 100+ amendments. The BBC says the Lords plan to sit round the clock on a rota basis until all votes complete, which they estimate will take until Saturday afternoon and pass for Royal Assent on Sunday so it can become law on Monday before prorogation.

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:04 pm
by Broccers
NotoriousREV wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:00 pm HoL have so far voted on 8 of the 100+ amendments. The BBC says the Lords plan to sit round the clock on a rota basis until all votes complete, which they estimate will take until Saturday afternoon and pass for Royal Assent on Sunday so it can become law on Monday before prorogation.
You're not factoring in stoppages for deaths or heart failure 😂

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:11 pm
by Orange Cola
NotoriousREV wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:00 pm HoL have so far voted on 8 of the 100+ amendments. The BBC says the Lords plan to sit round the clock on a rota basis until all votes complete, which they estimate will take until Saturday afternoon and pass for Royal Assent on Sunday so it can become law on Monday before prorogation.
Holy shit, the HoL want this to go through then!

Re: Bye Bye Boris!

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:33 pm
by Rich B
I guess they can’t be seen to be stopping it through laziness or formalities.