Years of pain after Maxwell, fixes with 3 sessions at our local Chiropractor. Treina has lower back pain and random cases of tingly foot, like a mild pins and needles.
£120 in total.
Dave!
Re: Back spasms/sciatica
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:49 pm
by NotoriousREV
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:20 pm
Both have their place
Osteopathy's place being in the fucking sea, along with chiropracty, homeopathy and healing bloody crystals.
Re: Back spasms/sciatica
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:53 pm
by Rich B
V8Granite wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:43 pm
Years of pain after Maxwell, fixes with 3 sessions at our local Chiropractor. Treina has lower back pain and random cases of tingly foot, like a mild pins and needles.
£120 in total.
Dave!
No, you’re not allowed to be fixed by a chiropractor - apparently it’s voodoo or something.
Re: Back spasms/sciatica
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:54 pm
by nuttinnew
NotoriousREV wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:49 pm
...place being in the fucking sea, along with homeopathy .
V8Granite wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:43 pm
Years of pain after Maxwell, fixes with 3 sessions at our local Chiropractor. Treina has lower back pain and random cases of tingly foot, like a mild pins and needles.
£120 in total.
Dave!
No, you’re not allowed to be fixed by a chiropractor - apparently it’s voodoo or something.
RESULTS:
As compared with the no-intervention control subjects, the patients who received osteopathic manipulative treatment reported greater improvements in back pain, greater satisfaction with back care throughout the trial, better physical functioning and mental health at 1 month, and fewer cotreatments at 6 months. The subjects who received sham manipulation also reported greater improvements in back pain and physical functioning and greater satisfaction than the no-intervention control subjects. There were no significant benefits with osteopathic manipulative treatment, as compared with sham manipulation.
CONCLUSIONS:
Osteopathic manipulative treatment and sham manipulation both appear to provide some benefits when used in addition to usual care for the treatment of chronic nonspecific low back pain. It remains unclear whether the benefits of osteopathic manipulative treatment can be attributed to the manipulative techniques themselves or whether they are related to other aspects of osteopathic manipulative treatment, such as range of motion activities or time spent interacting with patients, which may represent placebo effects.
V8Granite wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:43 pm
Years of pain after Maxwell, fixes with 3 sessions at our local Chiropractor. Treina has lower back pain and random cases of tingly foot, like a mild pins and needles.
£120 in total.
Dave!
No, you’re not allowed to be fixed by a chiropractor - apparently it’s voodoo or something.
It's allowed if they use music and drugs though, the voodoo , who do, what you don't dare do people.
Re: Back spasms/sciatica
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:00 pm
by Rich B
Cool, so we agree it works.
How anyone could compare waving crystals to physically working joints and muscles to relieve pain is a bit weird though.
Re: Back spasms/sciatica
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:03 pm
by NotoriousREV
Rich B wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:00 pm
Cool, so we agree it works.
How anyone could compare waving crystals to physically working joints and muscles to relieve pain is a bit weird though.
It works as well as a placebo i.e. it doesn't really work at all. An actual drug, for example, wouldn't be licenced if it didn't outperform a placebo.
Rich B wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:00 pm
Cool, so we agree it works.
How anyone could compare waving crystals to physically working joints and muscles to relieve pain is a bit weird though.
It works as well as a placebo i.e. it doesn't really work at all. An actual drug, for example, wouldn't be licenced if it didn't outperform a placebo.
Having gone from being in so much pain I couldn’t turn my head to drive/lift myself out of bed, reoccurring every couple of months or so, to having zero issues in 10 years after seeing a chiropractor for a few months, I can catergorically say you are wrong.
Rich B wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:00 pm
Cool, so we agree it works.
How anyone could compare waving crystals to physically working joints and muscles to relieve pain is a bit weird though.
It works as well as a placebo i.e. it doesn't really work at all. An actual drug, for example, wouldn't be licenced if it didn't outperform a placebo.
Having gone from being in so much pain I couldn’t turn my head to drive/lift myself out of bed, reoccurring every couple of months or so, to having zero issues in 10 years after seeing a chiropractor for a few months, I can catergorically say you are wrong.
It works as well as a placebo i.e. it doesn't really work at all. An actual drug, for example, wouldn't be licenced if it didn't outperform a placebo.
Having gone from being in so much pain I couldn’t turn my head to drive/lift myself out of bed, reoccurring every couple of months or so, to having zero issues in 10 years after seeing a chiropractor for a few months, I can catergorically say you are wrong.
Did you visit a physio?
No, as I said earlier, BUPA referred me to a chiropractor. I’m not saying a physio would have been any less effective of course.
Re: Back spasms/sciatica
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:16 pm
by Rich B
NotoriousREV wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:12 pmAlso, repeat after me: anecdote is not data.
JLv3.0 wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:23 pm
OK this is more like it
Does personal experience get categorised as an anecdote now?
That's exactly what an anecdote is, you spong
I know what it means; I just think you're trivialising the event a little
Re: Back spasms/sciatica
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:35 pm
by Mito Man
Alternative medicine can go fuck itself, I’ve had loads of shit including acupuncture through the NHS and it’s all bollocks. This is taking it to the extreme end but as my CNS said many times whenever my mother had a BS suggestion, she’s had loads of patients over her 30 year career decline chemotherapy to pursue their own treatment and the success rate has been 0.
