Back spasms/sciatica

[V8Granite]

Years of pain after Maxwell, fixes with 3 sessions at our local Chiropractor. Treina has lower back pain and random cases of tingly foot, like a mild pins and needles.

£120 in total.

Dave!

[NotoriousREV]

Both have their place

Osteopathy's place being in the fucking sea, along with chiropracty, homeopathy and healing bloody crystals.

[Rich B]

Years of pain after Maxwell, fixes with 3 sessions at our local Chiropractor. Treina has lower back pain and random cases of tingly foot, like a mild pins and needles.

£120 in total.

Dave!

No, you’re not allowed to be fixed by a chiropractor - apparently it’s voodoo or something.

[nuttinnew]

...place being in the fucking sea, along with homeopathy .

Antigayer.

[NotoriousREV]

Years of pain after Maxwell, fixes with 3 sessions at our local Chiropractor. Treina has lower back pain and random cases of tingly foot, like a mild pins and needles.

£120 in total.

Dave!

No, you’re not allowed to be fixed by a chiropractor - apparently it’s voodoo or something.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/128 ... t=Abstract

RESULTS:
As compared with the no-intervention control subjects, the patients who received osteopathic manipulative treatment reported greater improvements in back pain, greater satisfaction with back care throughout the trial, better physical functioning and mental health at 1 month, and fewer cotreatments at 6 months. The subjects who received sham manipulation also reported greater improvements in back pain and physical functioning and greater satisfaction than the no-intervention control subjects. There were no significant benefits with osteopathic manipulative treatment, as compared with sham manipulation.

CONCLUSIONS:
Osteopathic manipulative treatment and sham manipulation both appear to provide some benefits when used in addition to usual care for the treatment of chronic nonspecific low back pain. It remains unclear whether the benefits of osteopathic manipulative treatment can be attributed to the manipulative techniques themselves or whether they are related to other aspects of osteopathic manipulative treatment, such as range of motion activities or time spent interacting with patients, which may represent placebo effects.

[nuttinnew]

Years of pain after Maxwell, fixes with 3 sessions at our local Chiropractor. Treina has lower back pain and random cases of tingly foot, like a mild pins and needles.

£120 in total.

Dave!

No, you’re not allowed to be fixed by a chiropractor - apparently it’s voodoo or something.

It's allowed if they use music and drugs though, the voodoo , who do, what you don't dare do people.

[Rich B]

Cool, so we agree it works.

How anyone could compare waving crystals to physically working joints and muscles to relieve pain is a bit weird though.

[NotoriousREV]

Cool, so we agree it works.

How anyone could compare waving crystals to physically working joints and muscles to relieve pain is a bit weird though.

It works as well as a placebo i.e. it doesn't really work at all. An actual drug, for example, wouldn't be licenced if it didn't outperform a placebo.

[Rich B]

Cool, so we agree it works.

How anyone could compare waving crystals to physically working joints and muscles to relieve pain is a bit weird though.

It works as well as a placebo i.e. it doesn't really work at all. An actual drug, for example, wouldn't be licenced if it didn't outperform a placebo.

Having gone from being in so much pain I couldn’t turn my head to drive/lift myself out of bed, reoccurring every couple of months or so, to having zero issues in 10 years after seeing a chiropractor for a few months, I can catergorically say you are wrong.

[NotoriousREV]

Cool, so we agree it works.

How anyone could compare waving crystals to physically working joints and muscles to relieve pain is a bit weird though.

It works as well as a placebo i.e. it doesn't really work at all. An actual drug, for example, wouldn't be licenced if it didn't outperform a placebo.

Having gone from being in so much pain I couldn’t turn my head to drive/lift myself out of bed, reoccurring every couple of months or so, to having zero issues in 10 years after seeing a chiropractor for a few months, I can catergorically say you are wrong.

Did you visit a physio?

Also, repeat after me: anecdote is not data.

[Rich B]

It works as well as a placebo i.e. it doesn't really work at all. An actual drug, for example, wouldn't be licenced if it didn't outperform a placebo.

Having gone from being in so much pain I couldn’t turn my head to drive/lift myself out of bed, reoccurring every couple of months or so, to having zero issues in 10 years after seeing a chiropractor for a few months, I can catergorically say you are wrong.

Did you visit a physio?

No, as I said earlier, BUPA referred me to a chiropractor. I’m not saying a physio would have been any less effective of course.

[Rich B]

Also, repeat after me: anecdote is not data.

you really are a prick sometimes mate!

[NotoriousREV]

Did you visit a physio?

No

[Rich B]

Did you visit a physio?

No

Good bit of editing there.

[NotoriousREV]

Also, repeat after me: anecdote is not data.

you really are a prick sometimes mate!

[JLv3.0]

OK this is more like it

Does personal experience get categorised as an anecdote now?

It seems a little ambitious to ask someone to disregard a course of action that actually helped them!

Right, back to it.

[NotoriousREV]

OK this is more like it

Does personal experience get categorised as an anecdote now?

That's exactly what an anecdote is, you spong

[Rich B]

OK this is more like it

Does personal experience get categorised as an anecdote now?

It seems a little ambitious to ask someone to disregard a course of action that actually helped them!

Right, back to it.

i’m not entirely sure of what Rev thinks happens at a chiropractor

[JLv3.0]

OK this is more like it

Does personal experience get categorised as an anecdote now?

That's exactly what an anecdote is, you spong

I know what it means; I just think you're trivialising the event a little

[Mito Man]

Alternative medicine can go fuck itself, I’ve had loads of shit including acupuncture through the NHS and it’s all bollocks. This is taking it to the extreme end but as my CNS said many times whenever my mother had a BS suggestion, she’s had loads of patients over her 30 year career decline chemotherapy to pursue their own treatment and the success rate has been 0.