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Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 1:06 pm
by MikeHunt
Is the 133 the fwd car in the same vein as the 182?
The later mid engine red model was a bit pants iirc.
Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 2:09 pm
by Beany
I rarely got more than 26mpg out of the Puma, in fact apart from around town it was rarely below 4000rpm

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:53 pm
by Delphi
Broccers wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:30 am
Look forward to the pics - you found someone to do it then?
Yeah, a company up in Knaresborough that was recommended by a Porsche specialist up there. They've done a couple of 928s and when I went up for a look round they were just finishing off a Testarossa that looked incredible. They do a lot of Bentleys, TVRs, Porsche etc.
Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 4:11 pm
by ZedLeg
Delphi wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:53 pm
Broccers wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:30 am
Look forward to the pics - you found someone to do it then?
Yeah, a company up in Knaresborough that was recommended by a Porsche specialist up there. They've done a couple of 928s and when I went up for a look round they were just finishing off a Testarossa that looked incredible. They do a lot of Bentleys, TVRs, Porsche etc.
Sounds reassuringly expensive

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:22 pm
by jamcg
MikeHunt wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 1:06 pm
Is the 133 the fwd car in the same vein as the 182?
The later mid engine red model was a bit pants iirc.
Yeah, it’s a mk2 model, rwd is a mk3 which is a joint project with smart on the for four
Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:50 am
by jamcg
jamcg wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:22 pm
MikeHunt wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 1:06 pm
Is the 133 the fwd car in the same vein as the 182?
The later mid engine red model was a bit pants iirc.
Yeah, it’s a mk2 model, rwd is a mk3 which is a joint project with smart on the for four
Realised I’ve never even taken a picture of it, never mind posted one

so here’s one that I’m not sure is even good enough to have been taken on a potato
Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:40 pm
by MikeHunt
Looks cool and definitely passes for a current model, not 13 years old.
Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:53 pm
by DaveE
I know I'm biased because I owned one, but I still think the lines and proportions of the 306 look great
Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 3:22 pm
by Beany
DaveE wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:53 pm
I know I'm biased because I owned one, but I still think the lines and proportions of the 306 look great
My neighbour has a facelift (clear headlight lenses etc) 306 convertible, and while the convertible with the roof up isn't the best shape, otherwise it still looks sharp and quite elegant.
Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:13 pm
by ZedLeg
DaveE wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:53 pm
I know I'm biased because I owned one, but I still think the lines and proportions of the 306 look great
Aye, I think the facelifted one still looks great. The older one gets dated by styling cues it shares with the 205 & 405.
Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:52 pm
by jamcg
It’s a weird one the 306, when you compare it to the later 206 it looks like the older car, yet less dated
Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:23 pm
by Broccers
Delphi wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:53 pm
Broccers wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:30 am
Look forward to the pics - you found someone to do it then?
Yeah, a company up in Knaresborough that was recommended by a Porsche specialist up there. They've done a couple of 928s and when I went up for a look round they were just finishing off a Testarossa that looked incredible. They do a lot of Bentleys, TVRs, Porsche etc.
Hope you are pleased Andy! When I got my Mcoupe done it really was worth the wait.
Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:59 am
by Pete_
SAT Leon MK2 still looks quite fresh for being 18 years old.
Was going to suggest an Avantime at 22 years old but the headlights age it. Looks good from other angles though.
On the supercar side Lamborghini Gallardo is 19 years old now and doesn't look particularly dated.
But I think my winner is the Zonda at 24 years old

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:15 am
by Pete_
Pete_ wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:59 am
SAT Leon MK2 still looks quite fresh for being 18 years old.
Was going to suggest an Avantime at 22 years old but the headlights age it. Looks good from other angles though.
On the supercar side Lamborghini Gallardo is 19 years old now and doesn't look particularly dated.
But I think my winner is the Zonda at 24 years old
Edit: weirdly this has popped up on tiktok
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMYfvDs2T/
Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:46 am
by duncs500
Jobbo wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:39 am
V8Granite wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:14 am
scotta wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:12 pm
This.
The S1 Elise really shows it’s age, which is a good thing as it’s iconic. It’s the S2 that could be released today and still look current.
Dave!
I agree - thought that was just my personal bias towards the S2 so it's interesting to see it's shared.
I think I need to start a Beany style list.
Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:30 pm
by McSwede
Delphi wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:53 pm
Broccers wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:30 am
Look forward to the pics - you found someone to do it then?
Yeah, a company up in Knaresborough that was recommended by a Porsche specialist up there. They've done a couple of 928s and when I went up for a look round they were just finishing off a Testarossa that looked incredible. They do a lot of Bentleys, TVRs, Porsche etc.
That's 10 mins from me. I could collect it for you and drive it down

. I'm all heart
Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:26 pm
by integrale_evo
I think the clean lines of the early alfa 156 has aged well. Flush arches and lack of side mouldings make it look newer than most things from the 90s.
Only the soft grille shape really ages it compared to more angry looking ones which came later for those that know about such things.
There’s lots of older cars I didn’t really like for a while but have started to appreciate as they’ve aged, but that’s probably just me being odd rather than the designs ageing well
I think the e53 x5 is looking better again with age. A lot of the newer ones look very similar from the front, right until you get to the hideous modern ones. Only the big flat tall rear end really dates it. The later e70 has aged better from that angle.
Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:09 am
by GG.
That MG thing on the other thread prompted me (as I was thinking how much I'd rather have a Sagaris) to think how much the TVR Tuscan is an incredible looking thing for 1999. I mean how much car is this for £25k!
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-detail ... sed&page=1
Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:15 am
by ZedLeg
Pete_ wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:15 am
On the supercar side Lamborghini Gallardo is 19 years old now and doesn't look particularly dated.
I was thinking the original Gallardo for this thread. It's such a clean design compared to the later ones.
Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:34 am
by GG.
ZedLeg wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:15 am
Pete_ wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:15 am
On the supercar side Lamborghini Gallardo is 19 years old now and doesn't look particularly dated.
I was thinking the original Gallardo for this thread. It's such a clean design compared to the later ones.
And the 5.0 is a proper Lambo engine and better sounding that the later audi 5.2s
Sad thing is that one of these is within budget for the next fun car but its in that awkward phase where it is neither classic nor new and the interior is frankly horrific for the current prices these change hands for. Plus I can't be bothered with the anxiety of something that may ingest its cats on the overrun and write off the car.