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As money/gold and Jews is a common and long-standing anti-Semitic trope, JRG is offensive for that reason.

JonathanE wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2026 5:45 pm

speedingfine wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 11:01 am I Jewish Racing Gold FTW:

Just curious - would you feel as comfortable making similar jokes about other groups?

Jonathan

Take this with a big dose of “tell me to fuck off” but i sincerely hope we all would be comfortable making similar jokes about all our groups.

If someone wants to make a brits have bad teeth or French surrender a lot or the welsh shag sheep or “ze germans” or anything else, if it’s not meant as a direct threat/attack then i think we’re all fair game. It’s inclusive rather than exclusive imo.

Jews are probably better at laughing at themselves than any other group (is that racist?).

But (a) this joke wasn't particularly funny (b) it seems that most people give no thought to whether it might be offensive (which I think it clearly is, for the reason given above) (c) jokes on this forum about any other minority group seem to be rare (although in fairness I do remember something about the Irish, or was it the Scots?) and last but not least (d) nobody is going round at the moment shooting at British/French/German people just because of their nationality, or setting their ambulances on fire etc etc etc.

So take this with a big dose of "tell me I'm too sensitive", but yes, my first instinct is to tell you to fuck off. Sorry!

Rich B wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2026 9:37 pm

JonathanE wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2026 5:45 pm

speedingfine wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 11:01 am I Jewish Racing Gold FTW:

Just curious - would you feel as comfortable making similar jokes about other groups?

Jonathan

Take this with a big dose of “tell me to fuck off” but i sincerely hope we all would be comfortable making similar jokes about all our groups.

If someone wants to make a brits have bad teeth or French surrender a lot or the welsh shag sheep or “ze germans” or anything else, if it’s not meant as a direct threat/attack then i think we’re all fair game. It’s inclusive rather than exclusive imo.

I can see where you're coming from, and I applaud the sentiment. But it doesn't work. It isn't difficult to explain, but difficult to understand. If you've never been a minority in your own country, taught to always be on your guard, gone to school behind 20 foot barbed wire fences, and half-hourly police drive-bys, confronted daily with people denying your right to exist for no other reason than the faith you grew up in, then I don't think you can appreciate what something like that means.

That's part of my story, I'd like to think this place can function without using those terms.

JonathanE wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2026 9:58 pm Jews are probably better at laughing at themselves than any other group (is that racist?).

But (a) this joke wasn't particularly funny (b) it seems that most people give no thought to whether it might be offensive (which I think it clearly is, for the reason given above) (c) jokes on this forum about any other minority group seem to be rare (although in fairness I do remember something about the Irish, or was it the Scots?) and last but not least (d) nobody is going round at the moment shooting at British/French/German people just because of their nationality, or setting their ambulances on fire etc etc etc.

So take this with a big dose of "tell me I'm too sensitive", but yes, my first instinct is to tell you to fuck off. Sorry!

Fair enough, i’m happy to be educated where needed!

though worth considering the plight of us English - we have such a divide among ourselves that it is now considered disgusting to fly our own flag because it has been adopted by the worst of our society. Pride in our own nationality has become a dirty idea - which is a shame, because the aforementioned worst of us are desperate to pin it on “immigration” or anyone who doesn’t fully resemble them, instead of realising that it’s just them.

We’re surrounded by countries that are proud of their nationality (scot’s/welsh/irish) but we can’t be for some reason (again, those dicks from the paragraph above).

Hopefully they’ll all just fuck off and we can get back to being a welcoming nation who can enjoy some well meaning banter with our neighbours from wherever they originate from.

Here's the Pistonheads view from 2012. I have read your posts Jonathan and DJ, and have changed the post. It's a very different climate now. Hopefully you can accept my apologies to you both.

I do however like the term PRB, Pensioner Racing Beige which may be ageist

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/top ... 231144&p=1

As an aside, it seems the W123 in question has been sold. At least someone liked it

I think we could probably all agree to leave any perceived racism at the door here, given the long history of, what 50, 100 core people? I remember being called out many years back for an equally innocuous remark. Also Chris is a massive tall bellend, so there.