OV9

ZedLeg wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 6:52 pm

McSwede wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 5:47 pm

drcarlos wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 5:18 pm

There’s a couple of things that have come up over the past couple of weeks.

The model we are following developed by ic London and caused so much panic and karening has serious questions over its validity.
Firstly the code has not been peer reviewed and they will not release it and it’s parameters in full.
Secondly the disgraced team leader is connected to activists.
Thirdly when applied to Sweden (and their measure or lack there of) it predicted over 40k deaths at this stage, which is wildly inaccurate.

The nhs
We haven’t over run the hospitals, there have been no filmed packed out wards and people dying in corridors like we saw in Italy.
The nightingales have been shut having only taken a handful of patients.
Nurses seem to have so much time on their hands they are filling ticktock with dances.

At this stage going bankrupt could probably cause more harm that by starting relaxation of the restrictions, but it needs to be done sensibly.

Wasn't the reality of the nightingale hospitals that they were for when the NHS became overwhelmed? They'll end up being where all Covid-19 patients go so we can keep hospitals as free of the virus as possible and able to do what they do under normal circumstances. I'm sure there will be further waves of the virus over the next 12-18mths.

Wasn’t the reason that the nightingale hospitals aren’t being used that they expected hospitals to give up staff and equipment for them.

There were reports last week that the ones in London had been knocking back patients because they didn’t have nurses to look after them.

Why should they give up staff/equipment if they have the capacity at the existing hospitals?

It’s good that we have these emergency hospitals, regardless of if we have the staff yet, but it’s even better that we don’t need to use them yet.

That’s what the hospitals said.

They wanted to use the nightingales to isolate at risk corona patients but they couldn’t without losing nursing staff so most decided to just isolate within the hospital.

I said at the time the reports came out that the whole idea seemed to have been an exercise in being seen to do the right thing without proper planning. Which seems to be a recurring issue with our governments.

I don’t think I’ll bother going to the park this week.

We went yesterday and it was busier than last week. Standards are definitely starting to slip.

Did get to feed peas to a load of ducklings though so that was alright.

Yesterday the roads were probably as busy as any other Saturday with good weather. The Sainsbury’s petrol station had a 20 car queue. Wednesday is going to be carnage isn’t it

They’ve opened up a nice golf course to the public 5 minutes walk from my house. It’s awesome - miles of perfect grass for my boy to run around that not many people know about - we go there at least 2-3 times a week. I’m dreading the day they allow golf to restart...

NotoriousREV wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:18 pm I don’t think I’ll bother going to the park this week.

Did you not have ‘the letter’ though? That would be staying alert surely, because you don’t need a 40 page dossier of instructions to interpret something that just needs common sense from a moderate level of intelligence.

drcarlos wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:59 pm

NotoriousREV wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:18 pm I don’t think I’ll bother going to the park this week.

Did you not have ‘the letter’ though? That would be staying alert surely, because you don’t need a 40 page dossier of instructions to interpret something that just needs common sense from a moderate level of intelligence.

I’ve got no idea what letter you’re on about. I won’t be going to the park this week because it’ll be full of cunts who won’t give a shit about social distancing.

I think Carlos refers to the letter from the PMs office that was sent to every household - and we got ours a few weeks ago.

NotoriousREV wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:15 pm

drcarlos wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:59 pm

NotoriousREV wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:18 pm I don’t think I’ll bother going to the park this week.

Did you not have ‘the letter’ though? That would be staying alert surely, because you don’t need a 40 page dossier of instructions to interpret something that just needs common sense from a moderate level of intelligence.

I’ve got no idea what letter you’re on about. I won’t be going to the park this week because it’ll be full of cunts who won’t give a shit about social distancing.

It's bizarre, why allow people to travel more than a couple of miles for exercise. There'll be bus trips to Margate next weekend.

ZedLeg wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:10 pm 65E98E73-3AFB-4335-A1A9-2AEB5EBF7612.jpeg

Back to work safely or people won't have jobs to go back to! We do need to get the economy going but in a safe and responsible manner. At our factory in NW London we are spending a lot of money to try and make it as safe as possible for people to return to work.

The kind of flippant bollocks imaged above does a disservice to responsible businesses who take very seriously their duty of care to their employees. It's just leftie bullshit.

Well we've been told we can all WFH 100% till the end of the year if we choose.

So that's alright then.

McSwede wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:44 pm

ZedLeg wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:10 pm 65E98E73-3AFB-4335-A1A9-2AEB5EBF7612.jpeg

Back to work safely or people won't have jobs to go back to! We do need to get the economy going but in a safe and responsible manner. At our factory in NW London we are spending a lot of money to try and make it as safe as possible for people to return to work.

The kind of flippant bollocks imaged above does a disservice to responsible businesses who take very seriously their duty of care to their employees. It's just leftie bullshit.

Agree.

McSwede wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:44 pm

ZedLeg wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:10 pm 65E98E73-3AFB-4335-A1A9-2AEB5EBF7612.jpeg

Back to work safely or people won't have jobs to go back to! We do need to get the economy going but in a safe and responsible manner. At our factory in NW London we are spending a lot of money to try and make it as safe as possible for people to return to work.

The kind of flippant bollocks imaged above does a disservice to responsible businesses who take very seriously their duty of care to their employees. It's just leftie bullshit.

It is flippant and good for your company for putting the work in but a lot of people in the service industry will be needlessly put at risk if we push to reopen early.

Not talking about you here but I think it’s interesting that a lot of people who were pro brexit regardless of the consequences are now very worried about the economy.

The economy will suffer more if we have to bounce back to this once or twice more over the next year or so.

ZedLeg wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 9:19 pm

McSwede wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:44 pm

ZedLeg wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:10 pm 65E98E73-3AFB-4335-A1A9-2AEB5EBF7612.jpeg

Back to work safely or people won't have jobs to go back to! We do need to get the economy going but in a safe and responsible manner. At our factory in NW London we are spending a lot of money to try and make it as safe as possible for people to return to work.

The kind of flippant bollocks imaged above does a disservice to responsible businesses who take very seriously their duty of care to their employees. It's just leftie bullshit.

It is flippant and good for your company for putting the work in but a lot of people in the service industry will be needlessly put at risk if we push to reopen early.

Not talking about you here but I think it’s interesting that a lot of people who were pro brexit regardless of the consequences are now very worried about the economy.

The economy will suffer more if we have to bounce back to this once or twice more over the next year or so.

Not biting. Get a grip.

Tonight's shambles was exactly that. Crap leadership.

Out on Wednesday with mates on motorbikes tho.

I wasn’t even talking to you broccers, move along

ZedLeg wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 9:23 pm I wasn’t even talking to you broccers, move along

? Why think I'm talking about me?

Horrible situation, needs sorting, not the right time for politics although I would like a united front.

Three of the four parts of the UK are united

ZedLeg wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 9:19 pm

McSwede wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:44 pm

ZedLeg wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:10 pm 65E98E73-3AFB-4335-A1A9-2AEB5EBF7612.jpeg

Back to work safely or people won't have jobs to go back to! We do need to get the economy going but in a safe and responsible manner. At our factory in NW London we are spending a lot of money to try and make it as safe as possible for people to return to work.

The kind of flippant bollocks imaged above does a disservice to responsible businesses who take very seriously their duty of care to their employees. It's just leftie bullshit.

It is flippant and good for your company for putting the work in but a lot of people in the service industry will be needlessly put at risk if we push to reopen early.

Not talking about you here but I think it’s interesting that a lot of people who were pro brexit regardless of the consequences are now very worried about the economy.

The economy will suffer more if we have to bounce back to this once or twice more over the next year or so.

The bounce will be interesting depending upon many things. Only hindsight will tell us if we and/or the government have made the right decisions at the right time. Personally I think we need to be able to get industry going in but in as safe a way as possible. Very difficult in some circumstances like large building sites, as I have witnessed last week. The problem is that if we don't try and get the money flowing then by the time things do get better there will be fuck all cash left in the government and private industry for a bounce to happen.

Furloughing people has been a good thing to help businesses prepare themselves for when things pick up but if the market conditions aren't right when the virus has settled down enough then there will be mass redundancies. We would then see lots of people being released into the worst job market of our lifetimes.

The whole thing is a really difficult juggling act and only in the fullness of time will we see how good or bad of a job we or the Government have done. This hindsight will also be the only true time we can tell whether our government has done the best for the UK in comparison to other Countries.