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Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:08 am
by integrale_evo
My 318ti is actually a 1.9. Our 320i is actually a 2.2. Neither m3 is a 3.0
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:10 am
by JLv3.0
Rich B wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:06 am
JLv3.0 wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:03 am
Isn't there some truly horribly complex equation for how Audi name their cars now? Or was that a joke that I didn't get?
i remember you talking about that a while ago - I don’t think it’s found it’s way here yet, but it did sound ridiculous!
That's odd because I thought it was you who posted it - senior moment!
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:11 am
by JLv3.0
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:18 am
by Rich B
Can I have an A1 Quattro 70 please.
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:40 am
by ste
McSwede wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:17 pm
That's one of the reasons that the current M140i appealled to me. It'll soon be a transverse 4 with front or x-drive and a whole heap less desirable
Exactly why my mate has just scambled to get one of the last 340i tourings. The new > september emission regs mean you can no longer order one, so he got in in August and takes delivery next week. The replacement will be a 4 cylinder car with FWD or 4WD.
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:02 am
by Mito Man
So they’ve managed to make the straight 6 in the M4 emissions compliant but not the supposedly more efficient run of the mill 6 banger in the 3 series?
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:06 am
by IanF
ste wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:40 am
McSwede wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:17 pm
That's one of the reasons that the current M140i appealled to me. It'll soon be a transverse 4 with front or x-drive and a whole heap less desirable
Exactly why my mate has just scambled to get one of the last 340i tourings. The new > september emission regs mean you can no longer order one, so he got in in August and takes delivery next week. The replacement will be a 4 cylinder car with FWD or 4WD.
Think you’re confusing the 1 series with the 3 Ste. The M340i, like all other 3 series will be RWD or Xdrive .
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:08 am
by integrale_evo
I expect it's more a case of not worth the effort for normal models when they can just do multiple versions of the same engine.
Mercedes and vw have been getting reliable similar to 35/40i power from a four parper for a while so no surprise BMW we're going to go down the same route.
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:52 am
by GG.
Rich B wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:10 pm
Absolute bollocks. The M3/4 has 370mm discs. 18inch is over 450mm.
Can't be right can it. If it has 18 discs then what alloy size to clear the calipers? 20 or 21"?
To be honest I find the badging placed below the crease line on the boot the most offensive thing about that car
4cyl in a high riding hatch crossover MPV thing is just a bit 'meh', badge dilution aside.
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:31 pm
by jamcg
Mito Man wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:02 am
So they’ve managed to make the straight 6 in the M4 emissions compliant but not the supposedly more efficient run of the mill 6 banger in the 3 series?
I think it’s to do with production numbers as well as emissions
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:28 pm
by JonMad
Audi looks to be following Tesla's numbering approach.
Well I like this X2. 300bhp, AWD, one hopes with some dynamicism to the steering and balance of the 4WD system. It's like a Golf R with better visibility. What's wrong with that
edit: of course 6 cylinders would have been better still.
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:52 pm
by McSwede
Rich B wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:10 am
McSwede wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:07 am
mik wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:25 pm
It is monumentally stoopid.
As noted recently. Helped SIL buy a 118i recently. Which is a 1.5 turbo. Of course.
Most people will understand the hierarchy of the model range (bigger number = it being more betterer
) but most people couldn't give a fuck what's under the bonnet because they treat cars like white goods.
Several people have asked me if my car is a 4ltr.
only proper ///M cars are 4ltr...
Ouch biatch!
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:54 pm
by McSwede
ste wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:40 am
McSwede wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:17 pm
That's one of the reasons that the current M140i appealled to me. It'll soon be a transverse 4 with front or x-drive and a whole heap less desirable
Exactly why my mate has just scambled to get one of the last 340i tourings. The new > september emission regs mean you can no longer order one, so he got in in August and takes delivery next week. The replacement will be a 4 cylinder car with FWD or 4WD.
His car will also be like mine and have a petrol particular filter fitted (build date July 1st onwards) meaning it's a little quieter and most of the pops and burbles have gone. Still sounds nice while being hammered though!!
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:56 pm
by JonMad
GG. wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:52 am
Rich B wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:10 pm
Absolute bollocks. The M3/4 has 370mm discs. 18inch is over 450mm.
Can't be right can it. If it has 18 discs then what alloy size to clear the calipers? 20 or 21"?
To be honest I find the badging placed below the crease line on the boot the most offensive thing about that car
4cyl in a high riding hatch crossover MPV thing is just a bit 'meh', badge dilution aside.
20" wheels
https://www.bmw.co.uk/bmw-cars/m-perfor ... 18-x2-m35i
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:59 pm
by ste
McSwede wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:54 pm
ste wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:40 am
McSwede wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:17 pm
That's one of the reasons that the current M140i appealled to me. It'll soon be a transverse 4 with front or x-drive and a whole heap less desirable
Exactly why my mate has just scambled to get one of the last 340i tourings. The new > september emission regs mean you can no longer order one, so he got in in August and takes delivery next week. The replacement will be a 4 cylinder car with FWD or 4WD.
His car will also be like mine and have a petrol particular filter fitted (build date July 1st onwards) meaning it's a little quieter and most of the pops and burbles have gone. Still sounds nice while being hammered though!!
Did that coincide with the manual box being dropped too?
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:04 pm
by McSwede
ste wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:59 pm
McSwede wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:54 pm
ste wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:40 am
Exactly why my mate has just scambled to get one of the last 340i tourings. The new > september emission regs mean you can no longer order one, so he got in in August and takes delivery next week. The replacement will be a 4 cylinder car with FWD or 4WD.
His car will also be like mine and have a petrol particular filter fitted (build date July 1st onwards) meaning it's a little quieter and most of the pops and burbles have gone. Still sounds nice while being hammered though!!
Did that coincide with the manual box being dropped too?
Yes. All to do with the new WTLP tests that have all manufacturers in a flap over co2 and mpg. Worst on diesels making ordering new cars problematic over recent months. One colleague had his Q5 cancelled by Audi along with 76 others via one dealer because of this.
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:08 pm
by ste
Cheers. So if they've dropped the manwell and added a PPF to meet WTLP, why have they cancelled any orders from Sep onwards? Odd.
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:10 pm
by ste
....of the 340i I mean.
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:26 pm
by GG.
JonMad wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:56 pm
GG. wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:52 am
Rich B wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:10 pm
Absolute bollocks. The M3/4 has 370mm discs. 18inch is over 450mm.
Can't be right can it. If it has 18 discs then what alloy size to clear the calipers? 20 or 21"?
To be honest I find the badging placed below the crease line on the boot the most offensive thing about that car
4cyl in a high riding hatch crossover MPV thing is just a bit 'meh', badge dilution aside.
20" wheels
https://www.bmw.co.uk/bmw-cars/m-perfor ... 18-x2-m35i
Can't see any reference to the disc size on that pages and a quick google suggests 3 or 4 inches difference between wheel and disc size so I expect they'd actually have to be 21" wheels to comfortable clear it.
As Rich suggests it just looks like an error. A Chiron has 16 inch front discs
Re: BMW's naming strategy
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:35 pm
by Rich B
McSwede wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:52 pm
Rich B wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:10 am
McSwede wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:07 am
Most people will understand the hierarchy of the model range (bigger number = it being more betterer
) but most people couldn't give a fuck what's under the bonnet because they treat cars like white goods.
Several people have asked me if my car is a 4ltr.
only proper ///M cars are 4ltr...
Ouch biatch!
has Marv issued your junior ///Member pack yet?
) but most people couldn't give a fuck what's under the bonnet because they treat cars like white goods. 