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Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:07 pm
by KevH18
scotta wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:04 pm Honda Element Launched 2002.

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Jonny Smith has just posted a video of his


Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:11 pm
by Broccers
Delphi wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:01 pm Not bad for an almost 50 year old design.

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Your car is looking amazing

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:15 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
I always thought the Lexus IS200 was a fairly timeless design - first introduced in Europe in 1999

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Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:48 pm
by Mito Man
Original Audi titty

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:08 pm
by Beany
Well now I'm just depressed at how much Z4 coupes cost :(

Puma wheels do look a bit lost in the arches, but the wheel travel makes up for on bumpy roads. I don't think they look crazy small, they could just do - visually - with being a little bigger overall. Maybe 16s with the same profile (IE larger overall diameter) tyres?
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It looks less obvious from different angles.
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Yeah, any excuse.

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:21 pm
by Jobbo
Broccers wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 1:22 pm 987s came out in 2005 and dont really seem that ancient yet imo.
Good point - the 986 looks like a bit of a classic now but the 18yr old 987 still looks fresh. Hard to believe I was looking at 5yr old ones in 2010 before buying a 986.

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:38 pm
by duncs500
KevH18 wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:07 pm
scotta wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:04 pm Honda Element Launched 2002.

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Jonny Smith has just posted a video of his

Just saw this here:

Surely it's not coincidence that a car I've never heard of has appeared twice in one day? :)

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:21 pm
by Broccers
Beany wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:08 pm Well now I'm just depressed at how much Z4 coupes cost :(

Puma wheels do look a bit lost in the arches, but the wheel travel makes up for on bumpy roads. I don't think they look crazy small, they could just do - visually - with being a little bigger overall. Maybe 16s with the same profile (IE larger overall diameter) tyres?

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It looks less obvious from different angles.

Puma.jpg

Yeah, any excuse.
A lovely car!

I had to wait ages for my 1.7 1998 car to be built. 125 bhp was never more fun. I wish I had a pic of it.

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:14 am
by V8Granite
scotta wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:12 pm
duncs500 wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:55 pm S1 Elises don't look 25 years old... but then I would say that. :D
This.
The S1 Elise really shows it’s age, which is a good thing as it’s iconic. It’s the S2 that could be released today and still look current.

Dave!

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:44 am
by DeskJockey
scotta wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:04 pm Honda Element Launched 2002.

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That one is on Dutch plates. Interesting choice to import.

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:32 am
by Peterlplp
Agree on the IS/Altezza but it's a shame you guys didn't get the RS200 version, I think it would have been loved in such a manual gearbox market.

S15 from 1999 still looks fresh to me:

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Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:39 am
by Jobbo
V8Granite wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:14 am
scotta wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:12 pm
duncs500 wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:55 pm S1 Elises don't look 25 years old... but then I would say that. :D
This.
The S1 Elise really shows it’s age, which is a good thing as it’s iconic. It’s the S2 that could be released today and still look current.

Dave!
I agree - thought that was just my personal bias towards the S2 so it's interesting to see it's shared.

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:00 am
by ZedLeg
I think Lotus cars are generally pretty timeless. Maybe because they usually design a car and call it done for about 20 years.

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:25 am
by Delphi
Broccers wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:11 pm
Delphi wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:01 pm Not bad for an almost 50 year old design.

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Your car is looking amazing
Not mine sadly, Si. That's an '88 SE which sold for £130K last year. Mine's Grand Prix White and should be back from the bodyshop in a couple of weeks, so it will look that good.

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:30 am
by Broccers
Delphi wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:25 am
Broccers wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:11 pm
Delphi wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:01 pm Not bad for an almost 50 year old design.

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Your car is looking amazing
Not mine sadly, Si. That's an '88 SE which sold for £130K last year. Mine's Grand Prix White and should be back from the bodyshop in a couple of weeks, so it will look that good.
Look forward to the pics - you found someone to do it then? :)

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:27 am
by MikeHunt
I was parked near a very very tidy blue VX220 a few weeks ago and I remember thinking for a car night on 20 years old I looked incredibly fresh. I think it helps that they are the rarer cars that you don't tend to see every day.


Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:03 am
by Ascender
I went on the turbo trainer yesterday afternoon, fired up YouTube and that Honda Element video popped up. WTAF?!

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:24 am
by Mito Man
The amount of online stalking is incredible isn't it.

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:38 am
by Beany
Broccers wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:21 pm
A lovely car!

I had to wait ages for my 1.7 1998 car to be built. 125 bhp was never more fun. I wish I had a pic of it.
Thinking back to how the Puma drove gets me flip flopping between my next car being a big turbo six (335i/d with a remap) that would be fast but heavy, or going back ot something light that can be properly ragged, like a Twingo 133 or a Panda 100hp.

I do think I should get something big and fast before they're unfavourable to tax/run costs wise though, which I'm sure in the next ten years will start to become more the case....

Re: Cars which have aged well - first BMW Z4

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 12:26 pm
by jamcg
As someone currently running a Twingo 133- it needs to be ragged to get pace out of it, best description I’ve seen someone give is “French vtec”. 5 speed box so runs 3500-4000rpm at 70 so not a motorway car as such

Chassis is great and being so small gives you plenty of room to adjust on narrow roads

Not the best on fuel but it’s not about that really