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Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:37 pm
by integrale_evo
Sundayjumper wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:24 pm
integrale_evo wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:08 pm New dvd drive ordered for £35, now to find the cause of the leak…
Sunroof drains ? Strange for it to be as high up as the DVD drive, rear lights are the normal suspect but that would go into the spare wheel well.
Yeah, definitely high up, there’s a few bits on the boot opening which could leak with a gummed up seal or gasket, just need to summon up the energy to start pulling things to bits.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:39 pm
by Beany
integrale_evo wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:57 am
Sundayjumper wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:12 am
Beany wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:49 pm P'raps a V8?
Yes. Everyone should have a V8 at some point.
Correct 😎
It's definitely an option. I'm not doing 100 miles a day so something broadly in the range of an E39/E60 with a V8 might be interesting.

We'll see what's about if it happens.

I also get the urge to have something small, light and pointy again...

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:42 pm
by Sundayjumper
Beany wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:39 pm I also get the urge to have something small, light and pointy again...
MINI.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:48 pm
by Beany
Yeah, I was a bit meh about those but as a used option they're cheap enough these days to try out. If I don't like it, someone will buy it as they're pretty popular.

They still feel a bit form over function, even though the function is pretty good for them AFAIK - they're not just a pretty frock on a dull platform.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:36 pm
by Mito Man
Finally towed 3.5 tonnes and then some with the Defender. It’s alright for the most part but it really needs a big V8 as every incline is a full throttle struggle. And air suspension, I’m sure it would be fine on standard springs but some idiot lowered this one so the jockey wheel may have been acting as a tag axle on the bumpy bits.
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Still waiting for that moon on a stick used recession Bentayga to come up for sale for £20,000 :lol:

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:56 pm
by integrale_evo
Dim dashboard lcd strip fixed. 2 mins to remove the cluster, 10 seconds to remove blown bulb, 5 mins to walk to my shed and locate a spare. 1.5 mins to plug cluster in and test, 30 seconds to put cluster back in dash :D
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I know it’s not that quick compared to some of the modern suvs, but still amuses me seeing a 170mph speedo and 8k Rev counter while the view out of the screen is like being sat in a truck.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:41 pm
by nuttinnew
I'm sure most people have no idea it's as quick as it is, especially without M badges :)

You've reminded me of a question I've long had; does the physical rev limiter vary along with the tacho markings?

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:48 pm
by nuttinnew
Mito Man wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:36 pm It’s alright for the most part but it really needs a big V8
Aside from the obvs 'yay! Engine swap!' comment, how tuneable is the engine in it, and/or do you run into drivetrain problems first?

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:56 pm
by Mito Man
nuttinnew wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:48 pm
Mito Man wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:36 pm It’s alright for the most part but it really needs a big V8
Aside from the obvs 'yay! Engine swap!' comment, how tuneable is the engine in it, and/or do you run into drivetrain problems first?
I’ve already mapped it to 160bhp from 120bhp which was a new safe limit after I had to upgrade the clutch and input shaft after they failed. 170-180 is possible with an upgraded intercooler but I was told to not do it as it won’t be reliable towing. It wouldn’t really make a difference anyway, it needs more like another 100bhp…

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:27 pm
by DeskJockey
Plenty of LS swap options, or OM606 and N57 possibilities if you want to stay with diesel. Maybe a Cummins?

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:29 pm
by integrale_evo
nuttinnew wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:41 pm I'm sure most people have no idea it's as quick as it is, especially without M badges :)

You've reminded me of a question I've long had; does the physical rev limiter vary along with the tacho markings?
Honestly, I’ve no idea. It warms up quickly and mechanical sympathy means I’ve not tried to force it. I’d say maybe not as they’re orange advisory lights rather than the 7k red one.

Maybe one of the e46 m3 owners might know 😁

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:46 pm
by Sundayjumper
They progressively go out as the engine warms up.


Edit - I didn't read the question properly :lol: I would also like to know.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:51 pm
by Sundayjumper
Mito Man wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:56 pm I’ve already mapped it to 160bhp from 120bhp...
You want torque for towing. Lots of big turbo diesel torque. At low revs.

My Cayenne is 380hp but my Touareg was miles better for towing despite only being 313hp. Because torque.

Cayenne - 369 lb-ft @ 3500rpm

Touareg - 553 ft-lb @ 2000rpm

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:08 pm
by Mito Man
Sundayjumper wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:51 pm
Mito Man wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:56 pm I’ve already mapped it to 160bhp from 120bhp...
You want torque for towing. Lots of big turbo diesel torque. At low revs.

My Cayenne is 380hp but my Touareg was miles better for towing despite only being 313hp. Because torque.

Cayenne - 369 lb-ft @ 3500rpm

Touareg - 553 ft-lb @ 2000rpm
So what you're saying is that I really need a W12 Bentayga as that has *checks online* 664 lb·ft @ 1,350 rpm :shock:

@DeskJockey As for engine swaps I'm not going down that route, why go through all the cost, time and effort for an end product which will still be inferior to something like an old Touareg which I can buy for much less anyway. I know at one point I did seriously consider a V8 swap but I was on a cocktail of drugs and didn't have the best judgment :lol:

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:21 pm
by mik
@Mito Man You picked the wrong Land Rover dude.

Disco4 was a fabulous tow-car with 255bhp/442lbs.ft & and the 8sp ZF box. The manual-mode paddles were pretty much redundant in normal driving, but were magic to give you a little more control when towing.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:05 pm
by Mito Man
At the time I picked the correct car, for me it was basically between a Defender, old 90’s G Wagon (which had 90 bhp) and an ex military Hummer H1 (iirc these can’t tow very much). No idea why I like old army based shite :lol:

I still want to scratch the Hummer itch but I can’t imagine I’d be able to use it in a practical sense, and they’re just too much money to use as a farm/woods runabout.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:04 am
by nuttinnew
Mito Man wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:08 pm So what you're saying is that I really need a W12 old Touareg to come up for sale for £20,000 :lol:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-detail ... rol&page=1

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:29 am
by V8Granite
Mito Man wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:05 pm At the time I picked the correct car, for me it was basically between a Defender, old 90’s G Wagon (which had 90 bhp) and an ex military Hummer H1 (iirc these can’t tow very much). No idea why I like old army based shite :lol:

I still want to scratch the Hummer itch but I can’t imagine I’d be able to use it in a practical sense, and they’re just too much money to use as a farm/woods runabout.
The H1 is horrific on anything but a sand covered side slope. They are truly bad and in-efficient.

Does the Defender not give a recommended tow gear ? Mine pulls 3.5 tons comfortably but hills require 4th and mine only had 120hp ish and 200lbs/ft of torque. My 5th is revved out at 86mph though and at 3000rpm at 60.

Dave!

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:22 am
by Mito Man
V8Granite wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:29 am
Mito Man wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:05 pm At the time I picked the correct car, for me it was basically between a Defender, old 90’s G Wagon (which had 90 bhp) and an ex military Hummer H1 (iirc these can’t tow very much). No idea why I like old army based shite :lol:

I still want to scratch the Hummer itch but I can’t imagine I’d be able to use it in a practical sense, and they’re just too much money to use as a farm/woods runabout.
The H1 is horrific on anything but a sand covered side slope. They are truly bad and in-efficient.

Does the Defender not give a recommended tow gear ? Mine pulls 3.5 tons comfortably but hills require 4th and mine only had 120hp ish and 200lbs/ft of torque. My 5th is revved out at 86mph though and at 3000rpm at 60.

Dave!
On the H1 it’s also too wide, 40 cm more wide than the Defender which would really be limiting down narrow B roads.

No recommended gears but it’s pretty obvious just using it. Even without towing 6th gear is pretty gutless below 60 so I just use 5th for the flat bits and 4th for the hills.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:51 am
by Beany
That, and owning a Hummer H1 automatically makes you a massive throbber.

No exceptions. Yes, that includes Arnie.