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Re: HM ERII
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:19 pm
by dinny_g
He was shouting "Dirty Old Man" at Andrew as they walked past.
The missus and I are going into London on Friday to lay flowers on Friday. I expect the queue for Westminster Hall will be way to long but you never know. I'd like to see the coffin and pay my respects
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:27 pm
by MikeHunt
drcarlos wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:15 pm
Saw some footage of a some scummy lad on the Royal Mile mouthing off at the cortège, nice to see that he was hauled off by a couple of scotsmen and then dragged away by the plod. It was suggested he might have been yelling at Andrew, whether or not it's true it's not the time for it.
We look down on the likes of Russia and North Korea.
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:31 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
MikeHunt wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:27 pm
drcarlos wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:15 pm
Saw some footage of a some scummy lad on the Royal Mile mouthing off at the cortège, nice to see that he was hauled off by a couple of scotsmen and then dragged away by the plod. It was suggested he might have been yelling at Andrew, whether or not it's true it's not the time for it.
We look down on the likes of Russia and North Korea.
Are they well known for cracking down on people that mouth off at people who are in a cortege of a dead relative?
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:09 pm
by MikeHunt
I am talking more generally, Ive read about instances of protests becoming public order offences.
In this case, its not something I would do myself or condone, but if you look at it another way you have 2 big fat lads assaulting some skinny little kid for opening his mouth.
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:18 pm
by ZedLeg
I have to say that charging protestors with breach of the peace is over the top imo.
Fine, if they want to move them on or confiscate signs but being charged with a crime for protesting is heavy handed.
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:24 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
MikeHunt wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:09 pm
I am talking more generally, Ive read about instances of protests becoming public order offences.
In this case, its not something I would do myself or condone, but if you look at it another way you have 2 big fat lads assaulting some skinny little kid for opening his mouth.
More generally, I'd agree. Not appropriate imo and over the top.
As for the mouthy journo - the old adage of act like a twat, get treated like a twat holds.
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:17 pm
by Mito Man
I'm surprised we haven't had the climate change twats coming out, there's a C-17 transporting the coffin now
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:31 pm
by dinny_g
ZedLeg wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:18 pm
I have to say that charging protestors with breach of the peace is over the top imo.
Fine, if they want to move them on or confiscate signs but being charged with a crime for protesting is heavy handed.
In general then yes but there’s a time and a place for protest and this isn’t it
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:35 pm
by ZedLeg
dinny_g wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:31 pm
ZedLeg wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:18 pm
I have to say that charging protestors with breach of the peace is over the top imo.
Fine, if they want to move them on or confiscate signs but being charged with a crime for protesting is heavy handed.
In general then yes but there’s a time and a place for protest and this isn’t it
I disagree but it still stands that I don’t think that the charging is necessary. What’s the point?
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:42 pm
by dinny_g
Preventing the very few spoiling the memories of the majority ?
He wasn’t standing there with an important sign about climate change or some such. He was shouting Dirty Old Man over and over again.
What exactly was he protesting about??
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:48 pm
by Mito Man
Charging protestors with breach of the peace meets the definition for it perfectly well so I'm not sure what's heavy handed about it?
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:32 pm
by ZedLeg
dinny_g wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:42 pm
Preventing the very few spoiling the memories of the majority ?
He wasn’t standing there with an important sign about climate change or some such. He was shouting Dirty Old Man over and over again.
What exactly was he protesting about??
He’s not the only one who’s been charged. Like I said, I’m not saying they shouldn’t be moved on or whatever but charging them seems unnecessarily punitive.
Just my opinion though.
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:27 pm
by jamcg
ZedLeg wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:32 pm
dinny_g wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:42 pm
Preventing the very few spoiling the memories of the majority ?
He wasn’t standing there with an important sign about climate change or some such. He was shouting Dirty Old Man over and over again.
What exactly was he protesting about??
He’s not the only one who’s been charged. Like I said, I’m not saying they shouldn’t be moved on or whatever but charging them seems unnecessarily punitive.
Just my opinion though.
Could be worse, could be charged with treason
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:52 pm
by ZedLeg
The true mark of a free country
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:04 pm
by Rich B
ZedLeg wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:52 pm
The true mark of a free country
exactly, we should all be free to shout insults at a funeral procession, no matter who's it is. It's what our grandfathers fought for.
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:19 am
by Jobbo
I have to say I'd prefer to make my last journey in a Jaguar hearse and not a Merc E-class hearse. Love the alloys on Her Maj's final ride. What are they from?
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:27 am
by Jobbo
Ah, I have identified them as OEM 20" Amirante alloys. They look larger in diameter than 20". Never seen them on an X351.
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:37 am
by speedingfine
Jobbo wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:27 am
Ah, I have identified them as OEM 20" Amirante alloys. They look larger in diameter than 20". Never seen them on an X351.
JIC, nice looking machine.
Strange they didn't fly that car up there for the journey from Balmoral, but Southerners usually get the best of things I suppose
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:40 am
by 16vCento
Used to be an option on X358 Super V8s, never seen them on anything else.
https://pin.it/5PxrZ8p
Edit, slightly different to X350 ones, look awful on non-hearse XJs!
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xj-x ... cs-220552/
Re: HM ERII
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:47 am
by MikeHunt
Rich B wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:04 pm
ZedLeg wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:52 pm
The true mark of a free country
exactly, we should all be free to shout insults at a funeral procession, no matter who's it is. It's what our grandfathers fought for.
This isn't the same as aunty pat down the local crem followed by a few sandwiches in her local. Its a huge political state affair and not about the individual, it's about the monarchy. If she got the same funeral as everyone else, I'd agree with you.