Coronavirus
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Sounds like they're softening some of the import rules as a result of C19, but I fear the virus and Brexit is a perfect storm of disaster. Here's hoping I'm wrong.
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It’s the perfect excuse for Brexiteers. Phrases such as “You can’t possibly blame the state of the economy on Brexit, don’t you remember coronavirus?” and “since Brexit in 2020 all the economy has done is increase, it’s helped us out of the impact of the virus” will be heading our way in the future.
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You're probably right, you would imagine when the rest of Europe bounces back much quicker it will be pretty obvious, but there's always a way to spin the numbers.
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Sounds about right... unfortunately.Orange Cola wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:56 amIt’s the perfect excuse for Brexiteers. Phrases such as “You can’t possibly blame the state of the economy on Brexit, don’t you remember coronavirus?” and “since Brexit in 2020 all the economy has done is increase, it’s helped us out of the impact of the virus” will be heading our way in the future.
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Very fecking long if they don't get kids back in school anytime soon. I genuinely don't think they understand the consequences of the schools situation.
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Is that because people are looking after children rather than working? Or have I missed something?Swervin_Mervin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:29 amVery fecking long if they don't get kids back in school anytime soon. I genuinely don't think they understand the consequences of the schools situation.
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There’s a learning gap between the top performing and lowest performing kids that’s been closing for years. Estimates are this has set Education back at least a decade.Orange Cola wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:54 amIs that because people are looking after children rather than working? Or have I missed something?Swervin_Mervin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:29 amVery fecking long if they don't get kids back in school anytime soon. I genuinely don't think they understand the consequences of the schools situation.
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I’d missed that. Wow. I didn’t realise such big improvements have been made.NotoriousREV wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:56 amThere’s a learning gap between the top performing and lowest performing kids that’s been closing for years. Estimates are this has set Education back at least a decade.Orange Cola wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:54 amIs that because people are looking after children rather than working? Or have I missed something?Swervin_Mervin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:29 am
Very fecking long if they don't get kids back in school anytime soon. I genuinely don't think they understand the consequences of the schools situation.
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Exactly that. Many won't be able to actually go back to work/full time work if they're having to stay at home with kids. How can you kick start the economy with half the workforce unable to work as they normally would?Orange Cola wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:54 amIs that because people are looking after children rather than working? Or have I missed something?Swervin_Mervin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:29 amVery fecking long if they don't get kids back in school anytime soon. I genuinely don't think they understand the consequences of the schools situation.
And as Rev says, we're storing up a monumental mess for future generations of children and the future workforce as well.
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Does anyone have figures that show spread of this v protests? Especially in the USA which is why the stock market tanked yesterday?
Also do you think there will be BLM v Thugs on London's streets this weekend? That will help lots
Also do you think there will be BLM v Thugs on London's streets this weekend? That will help lots
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It’s a bit too early to tell for the UK. Give it another week or so.
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As you say, no surprise, though now they've been announced the FTSE is going up again because they're no longer just predicted so the uncertainty is gone.
But only 20% down in April, a month when virtually the whole country was told to stay at home? When even the supermarkets say their trading was down due to limiting numbers of customers? When entire sectors of the economy (leisure, food and drink, tourism) were forced to shut down completely? Doesn't sound too bad to me in that context, and you'd assume May is going to be better than April.
The rent quarter day on 24 June will be the killer blow to many businesses though, so that's going to be more telling for the future than today's figures.
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Any savvy landlord should help their tenants after all who is going to take their place? Something is better than nothing in my book. I honestly feel more upbeat about business now, it's just the media banging on about misery.
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Maybe you're right, just looked a big number to me, but there's not really anything to compare it to so it's hard to judge.Jobbo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:19 amAs you say, no surprise, though now they've been announced the FTSE is going up again because they're no longer just predicted so the uncertainty is gone.
But only 20% down in April, a month when virtually the whole country was told to stay at home? When even the supermarkets say their trading was down due to limiting numbers of customers? When entire sectors of the economy (leisure, food and drink, tourism) were forced to shut down completely? Doesn't sound too bad to me in that context, and you'd assume May is going to be better than April.
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There’s always the group of tosser landlords who just don’t give a shit, it’s a contributing factor to the dying high-streets up and down the country where the landlords just hike the rent up and then shops sit empty
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Youre absolutely right however I would imagine Landlords havent had to suffer something like this, ever. Got to bend.Orange Cola wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:40 amThere’s always the group of tosser landlords who just don’t give a shit, it’s a contributing factor to the dying high-streets up and down the country where the landlords just hike the rent up and then shops sit empty
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I had hope at one point that this would lead to a change in mentality among the people who hold all the money but all the talk now is just to go back to the unsustainable system we had whatever the consequences.
I’d like to be proven wrong though.
I’d like to be proven wrong though.
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Times have changed, years ago in Covent Garden you’d have bidding wars to occupy shops, not so now and with landlords having to pay business rates after 3 months they’d get around it with short term renting - hence a sudden proliferation of pop up stores around the area. Now they’re having to offer a few months free as an incentive just to avoid it being a liability so I’m sure there will be discounts and such.
How about not having a sig at all?
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I was pleasantly surprised by 20%, as more than 20% of the country was shut downJobbo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:19 amAs you say, no surprise, though now they've been announced the FTSE is going up again because they're no longer just predicted so the uncertainty is gone.
But only 20% down in April, a month when virtually the whole country was told to stay at home? When even the supermarkets say their trading was down due to limiting numbers of customers? When entire sectors of the economy (leisure, food and drink, tourism) were forced to shut down completely? Doesn't sound too bad to me in that context, and you'd assume May is going to be better than April.
The rent quarter day on 24 June will be the killer blow to many businesses though, so that's going to be more telling for the future than today's figures.
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Any savvy landlord like, say, INTU?