Coronavirus

[mik]

Here we go....

Mr Pompeo did a great job there of avoiding the fact that he stated that he both did, and did not believe the virus was man-made or genetically modified. Boss Trump will be proud.

[Orange Cola]

Boris said he would outline plans to restart the economy this week, what do we reckon? I think it would be:

Manufacturing ok to go back to work provided they find suitable ways of maintaining social distancing with appropriate PPE
Public transport to restart provided people wear masks and stay distanced
Social distancing to reduce from 2m to 1m (currently being looked at anyway)
Plan for schools to phase return

Pubs, cafes etc to remain closed
Anyone who can work from home must continue to do so

Start lifting the above restrictions mid-May to June 1st.

[Ascender]

All sounds sensible... not sure how they’re going to manage the little germ factories which are schools though.

There’s also this talk about having a small group of people you can “socialise” with - that would at least let people start to spend time with relatives, some work colleagues etc which may help get some feeling of normality back.

[integrale_evo]

Manufacturing has always been allowed to work providing they can ensure adequate social distancing. The ones which have shut have done so because their customers are all closed.

[mik]

I think we can all learn something from this.

[Mito Man]

Younger kids can’t pass on the virus to adults even if they catch it themselves so I would expect those under 10 to be allowed to go back to school/nursery immediately.

[Rich B]

All sounds sensible... not sure how they’re going to manage the little germ factories which are schools though.

There’s also this talk about having a small group of people you can “socialise” with - that would at least let people start to spend time with relatives, some work colleagues etc which may help get some feeling of normality back.

Can you imagine the “interesting” ways people will choose to interpret that one though!

[integrale_evo]

Younger kids can’t pass on the virus to adults even if they catch it themselves so I would expect those under 10 to be allowed to go back to school/nursery immediately.

I've seen that mentioned as a theory but didn't think it had been proven yet?

[Simon]

The WHO confirmed there was no case of a 10 year old infecting an older person. Quite how they know I don't know.

[Rich B]

The WHO confirmed there was no case of a 10 year old infecting an older person. Quite how they know I don't know.

Exactly the kind of interpretation we all need to be aware of. They cannot find a single case.

[NotoriousREV]

Obviously I’m not a virologist, but I’d love to understand how the age of a person affects the transmittability of a disease. I get that age can affect how badly someone suffers from an infection, but not how infectious they are. Or is it that the virus just doesn’t multiply in kids and therefore they can’t spread the infection because the virus can’t establish itself?

[McSwede]

Manufacturing has always been allowed to work providing they can ensure adequate social distancing. The ones which have shut have done so because their customers are all closed.

Our factory is by the North Circular and is operating on reduced numbers as we won't allow the production staff to use tube/train/bus to come to work and most don't drive. We've been paying for Ubers for some. Some have 3 or 4 generations of family living in the same house and won't come in. Most have now been furlough though.

We are set up with face masks (changed every 2hrs), gloves and temp check upon arrival. Biggest problem is sites being closed and project work being delayed or cancelled so orders coming in and being dispatched are low so we'll keep a lot of people furloughed until things start to get going again.

Interesting times!!!

[Orange Cola]

We’re closed because of the 2m restriction, lots of jobs are two person and PPE shortage means it’s a no go. However we are now producing PPE in house (and sending it to the NHS) but still have the problem of completing tasks which require two people.

This article looks to be an indicator too, Sunday for the full answer...

Coronavirus: Possible post-lockdown workplace rules revealed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52525127

[JonMad]

My wife's been eating stuff somewhere or other and is worried she'll be told she can start work again as a hairdresser from next week, along with small shops being allowed to reopen. She's going to get bombarded by her clients and doesn't want to put herself at any risk by being in close proximity to a random person when she's not allowed to see her family, which she'd rather be doing and would be less risk. And her working would make overseeing school work much more difficult. She's even thinking about not restarting even when told she can - either until the schools go back, until summer holidays are over, or not at all.

[integrale_evo]

We’re closed because of the 2m restriction, lots of jobs are two person and PPE shortage means it’s a no go. However we are now producing PPE in house (and sending it to the NHS) but still have the problem of completing tasks which require two people.

This article looks to be an indicator too, Sunday for the full answer...

Coronavirus: Possible post-lockdown workplace rules revealed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52525127

We haven't stopped at all, in fact we're far busier than normal at this time of year.

We have a temperature check on the gate, hand sanitisers by all permenantly closed fire doors, everyone has radio headsets so we don't need to shout in each other's ears in noisy environments and complete segregation of the shifts. One shift stops 15mins early, and has to be in their car or offsite before the other shift can get out of their cars and enter the building from the start of their normal shift start time followed by sanitising all buttons and hand rails etc before work restarts.

Currently have zero people isolating with symptoms, or symptoms in their household.

[Orange Cola]

You’re doing very well. At best we’ll restart slowly, there’s no way we will hit full capacity quickly.

[Carlos]

Obviously I’m not a virologist, but I’d love to understand how the age of a person affects the transmittability of a disease. I get that age can affect how badly someone suffers from an infection, but not how infectious they are. Or is it that the virus just doesn’t multiply in kids and therefore they can’t spread the infection because the virus can’t establish itself?

Kids are already so dirty the virus can't cope and dies that instantly .

[Ascender]

I’m guessing face masks for everyone is going to be a mandatory requirement regardless of the industry.

[Orange Cola]

I thought this was the case until I saw the total death rate didn’t start spiking until Feb time, however this article confirms the suspicion that the virus was around long before we thought it was

Coronavirus: France's first known case 'was in December' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52526554

[Foz]

The economic impact is growing, we have to get some form of solution, the double covid/oil price impact locally here is rapidly becoming catastrophic.

how many of those furloughed have a job to return to, in hospitality that's going to be a tiny number