Fucking redundant again!

[Rich B]

[JLv3.0]

Hahahaha not a chance!

[Simon]

[DaveE]

Bit late to this one...

Sorry to hear about being made redundant. It sucks (it's happened to me a couple of times).

The first time was especially harsh, both in terms of how it came about (someone asleep at the wheel) and how it was handled (min possible pay-off, having to work every day of a 3 month notice period etc)

It really knocked me, although at the time I wasn't really aware of the impact.

Hope things work out well for you...

[JLv3.0]

having to work every day of a 3 month notice period etc)

I've always been OK with this with redundancies if they're handled properly - although must admit it's only been half a day a week with this lot as I had three days / week with the new crowd.

The most brutal notice period was back in 2007 - I'd taken a new job in 2006 which was based on site around an hour's drive away. This in itself wasn't an issue - but there was NOTHING to do. Literally, nothing. A project management job came up with Premier Inn and I had to hand in my notice after only 9 months with them.

They were vindictive arseholes about it - made me go there every day to watch the clock, had people check up on me and report back to them so they could screw me out of my final payment (you get a certain amount of paid weeks per year here, multiplied by the time you've spent with the company, as a final payment in lieu of a pension scheme here) and so on.

This place has been awesome - just agreed my final payment with no issue, they've even included things I don't think I'm entitled to like my annual flight allowance that would only be due a week after I leave

[DaveE]

having to work every day of a 3 month notice period etc)

I've always been OK with this with redundancies if they're handled properly - although must admit it's only been half a day a week with this lot as I had three days / week with the new crowd.

The most brutal notice period was back in 2007 - I'd taken a new job in 2006 which was based on site around an hour's drive away. This in itself wasn't an issue - but there was NOTHING to do. Literally, nothing. A project management job came up with Premier Inn and I had to hand in my notice after only 9 months with them.

They were vindictive arseholes about it - made me go there every day to watch the clock, had people check up on me and report back to them so they could screw me out of my final payment (you get a certain amount of paid weeks per year here, multiplied by the time you've spent with the company, as a final payment in lieu of a pension scheme here) and so on.

This place has been awesome - just agreed my final payment with no issue, they've even included things I don't think I'm entitled to like my annual flight allowance that would only be due a week after I leave

It was the combination of things that hurt - basically on every angle of the redundancy it was "bad"

i.e. I'd not mind working the notice if the pay-off was OK; I'd not have minded a lesser pay-off if the notice had been more lenient (or gardening leave)

I got a payoff of about £1500 after over 4 years service. That's almost rude IMO - in some ways, it would have been better if they'd been able to say "Fuck you, we're not giving you a bean" - because that was the intent - they took the most they could, and gave the very least they legally had to.

That stings.

[JLv3.0]

1500 quid after 4 years?!! Fkn ell.

It's like getting a really small bonus - I'd (maybe stupidly) prefer to get nothing. My bonus in 2016 here was a couple of months pay, and last year they said "look we've got no money, we're sorry". Not an issue.

In 2013 my bonus was something like 1200 quid - yeah cheers mate.

[DaveE]

1500 quid after 4 years?!! Fkn ell.

It's like getting a really small bonus - I'd (maybe stupidly) prefer to get nothing. My bonus in 2016 here was a couple of months pay, and last year they said "look we've got no money, we're sorry". Not an issue.

In 2013 my bonus was something like 1200 quid - yeah cheers mate.

Exactly that.

Worse than if they'd given us nothing (IMO).

[Swervin_Mervin]

Forgive my potential naivety but if you're working notice surely you should be being paid as per normal (contract terms assuming)?

Only times I've heard of "pay-off" is when the person isn't working their notice.

[NotoriousREV]

Forgive my potential naivety but if you're working notice surely you should be being paid as per normal (contract terms assuming)?

Only times I've heard of "pay-off" is when the person isn't working their notice.

You're entitled to a redundancy payment as well as your pay for the time you work (or receive a payment in lieu of notice)

[JLv3.0]

To quote our favourite vlogger - it's different out here. Basically I've been paid my normal salary for the three months notice worked, however here the final payment is calculated as follows:

0-1 year with the company : zilch
1-5 years : 21 days salary per year with the company
5+ : 30 days salary per year.

So it's worth having, and of course ripe for abuse by the less scrupulous here.

[Simon]

When I look back across my career it's a pretty sad history of leaving jobs.

First job I was made redundant
Second the writing was on the wall so I left - the office shut a few months later
Third - redundant
Fourth - I only left because of a change of geographic area
Fifth - job put at risk so I left before I was made redundant
Sixth - Probably the only job I've left out of free choice
Currently in the second role at my seventh employer, and the first time I've felt properly secure.

21 years in IT!

[JLv3.0]

I've been laid off twice - that's the corollary of being in construction project management. You're right there at the sharp end of any economic slowdown.

[Rich B]

I've been laid off twice - that's the corollary of being in construction project management. You're right there at the sharp end of any economic slowdown.

That “word of the day” calendar you stole from the stationary cupboard is better than any pay off mate...

[JLv3.0]

Corollary?

Not exactly bleeding-edge linguistic skills there mate

[Rich B]

Corollary?

Not exactly bleeding-edge linguistic skills there mate

True, though i don’t think I’ve ever seen it written down!

[Swervin_Mervin]

Forgive my potential naivety but if you're working notice surely you should be being paid as per normal (contract terms assuming)?

Only times I've heard of "pay-off" is when the person isn't working their notice.

You're entitled to a redundancy payment as well as your pay for the time you work (or receive a payment in lieu of notice)

Ahh, thanks. I should know this as the Mrs was made redundant back in March. Mind, she didn't work any notice, just got her redundancy pay off.

[Rich B]

Forgive my potential naivety but if you're working notice surely you should be being paid as per normal (contract terms assuming)?

Only times I've heard of "pay-off" is when the person isn't working their notice.

You're entitled to a redundancy payment as well as your pay for the time you work (or receive a payment in lieu of notice)

Ahh, thanks. I should know this as the Mrs was made redundant back in March. Mind, she didn't work any notice, just got her redundancy pay off.

PILON is the best way to go - you’re completely free to go (and/or start elsewhere) and you get the notice money pretty much tax free. I had it a few years ago with a job I was going to be handing in my notice any day: started the new job 6 days later with a wedge of cash.

Though have they changed the rules on this/tax?

[NotoriousREV]

You're entitled to a redundancy payment as well as your pay for the time you work (or receive a payment in lieu of notice)

Ahh, thanks. I should know this as the Mrs was made redundant back in March. Mind, she didn't work any notice, just got her redundancy pay off.

PILON is the best way to go - you’re completely free to go (and/or start elsewhere) and you get the notice money pretty much tax free. I had it a few years ago with a job I was going to be handing in my notice any day: started the new job 6 days later with a wedge of cash.

Though have they changed the rules on this/tax?

Last time I got made redundant I lived for 6 months off my 3 months tax free pay. Best summer as an adult ever.

[Rich B]

Ahh, thanks. I should know this as the Mrs was made redundant back in March. Mind, she didn't work any notice, just got her redundancy pay off.

PILON is the best way to go - you’re completely free to go (and/or start elsewhere) and you get the notice money pretty much tax free. I had it a few years ago with a job I was going to be handing in my notice any day: started the new job 6 days later with a wedge of cash.

Though have they changed the rules on this/tax?

Last time I got made redundant I lived for 6 months off my 3 months tax free pay. Best summer as an adult ever.

Before I started this job I had a months gardening leave - I enjoyed every second of it and could have happily done another few months (the wife wasn’t quite as enthusiastic after a few weeks of leaving each morning with me still in bed!)