Drag

[mik]

I don't get it.

We have gay friends - more than 2, but one couple we know stayed over recently - they are both epic.

But I dont get drag.

Why do they seem to attack/ rip the piss out of women? What is funny about that? Why is there no macho-lesbian equivalent? We've just watched an episode of Ru Paul's DR and i had to keep forcing my shoulders back down. Nothing do with the sexuality of the contestants - just due to cringing at the fact they came across as unsufferable wonkers.

Help me zedleg

[Simon]

Me thinks you doth protest too much...

[Gavin]

Do you mean that it is meant to be funny and you don't find it funny?

Do you mean you don't want to do it any more?

Also, what has having gay friends got to do with the rest of your post? Do you have to be gay to go drag? I did watch Priscilla Queen of the Desert many many years ago and that was a fabulous film dahling but I have funny friends but don't really like stand up.

Ah, just noticed when you posted it so guess you had a few and were on the gay porn sites again

[RobYob]

Ah, just noticed when you posted it so guess you had a few and were on the gay porn sites again

You've got him pegged.

[ZedLeg]

Ah, just noticed when you posted it so guess you had a few and were on the gay porn sites again

You've got him pegged.

I didn’t know they had that kind of relationship .

Mik, women do drag too. Either as bio queens or as drag kings who usually take their cues from old club and lounge entertainers.

If you would like to see more of the local queer cabaret scene there’s a good show at Nice & Sleazy’s called Queer Theory. Runs every other month I think .

[Gavin]

Ah, just noticed when you posted it so guess you had a few and were on the gay porn sites again

You've got him pegged.

bugger!

[mik]

I may have had a couple of sherbets when I posted this.

- I just don’t see any humour in it. Like a clown isn’t funny if all he does is dresses up. Like someone dressing up as a dog might make you smile, but doesn’t provide continuous belly laughs.

- references to gay friends were ‘cos I (clearly wrongly) associate drag with gay men. Was not aware of drag kings being a thing.

I am flattered, but shall politely decline your offers

[ZedLeg]

Drag isn’t just dress up, it’s a cabaret act.

They sing, they dance, they tell jokes.

Good drag artists put a lot of work into their characters and to call it dress up is a bit dismissive.

It’s fine if it’s not your cup of tea. It’s not for everyone.

[Nefarious]

Why do they seem to attack/ rip the piss out of women? What is funny about that? Why is there no macho-lesbian equivalent? We've just watched an episode of Ru Paul's DR and i had to keep forcing my shoulders back down. Nothing do with the sexuality of the contestants - just due to cringing at the fact they came across as unsufferable wonkers.

Isn't the history of drag based in misogyny?
Once upon a time, all actors were male. "Serious" female parts were performed with a genuine attempt to impersonate, but comedy parts were caricatures, deriving a significant part of their "comedy" by mocking female attributes. The echo/hangover from this is the pantomime dame.
In the US, the 20th century, drag was born as a side show to the black-up performers - the audience took a breather from taking the piss out of black men, to additionally take the piss out of black women.
In the UK, drag, as we know it today, grew out of cabaret performances in underground 50s and 60s gay clubs - men only and deeply misogynistic.

Interestingly, my experience (based on my small sample of my male gay mates) is that drag and transvestism are seen completely differently in the gay community, even when the ostentatious end of transvestism starts to blur into drag. Especially among more misogynistic gay men - love drag, but reserve a special hatred for trannies.