The engine hardware might be identical but the controllers aren’t (or the cooling, or some level of system integration) which means the other teams can’t run the quali mode. There’s always something the engine manufacturer can do to ensure the works team get the best performance whilst the others don’t.
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So do we think that Vettel's really going to stay another year at Ferrari? It seems a little close to the end of the season now for any big changes, but Ferrari must be thinking that next year could be a fricking nightmare for them in terms of driver management.
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Unless SV retires of his own accord then I think he’ll still have a seat there. Grosjean got renewed and SV isn’t anywhere near that bad.
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True, but Grosjean was never that good and isn't a four time WDC with an ego to match. SV has much further to fall and the weight of expectation (and cost) is different.Orange Cola wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:45 pm Unless SV retires of his own accord then I think he’ll still have a seat there. Grosjean got renewed and SV isn’t anywhere near that bad.
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He’s out of contract at the end of next season anyway, I would imagine if he’s this far through the contract then it’ll cost Ferrari the remainder to let him go. I know SV has a performance clause in his end of the contract, but if there was one on the Ferrari side we’d know about it by now (unless, of course, it’s worded around driver error mistakes but I can’t see anyone foreseeing that and building it into a drivers contract), it’ll just be a points based performance clause and even then he’s not exactly at the bottom of the drivers standings.DeskJockey wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:54 pmTrue, but Grosjean was never that good and isn't a four time WDC with an ego to match. SV has much further to fall and the weight of expectation (and cost) is different.Orange Cola wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:45 pm Unless SV retires of his own accord then I think he’ll still have a seat there. Grosjean got renewed and SV isn’t anywhere near that bad.
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And a good interview with Max on the bbc
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/49988237
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/49988237
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I remember the last time this happened, must have been about ten years ago, waking up at 2am to watch qualifying then again at 6am to watch the race.jamcg wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:33 am Qualifying now going to be on Sunday morning
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... Kgtvu.html
This time, as I can't get excited about non-live F1, I'll probably just watch the 5 minute highlights video on YouTube.
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I like that a lot, shows a lot about Max. I support Max already as a fan but once he’s in a title contending team I’ll be backing him all the way.JonMad wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:28 am And a good interview with Max on the bbc
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/49988237
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Romain Grosjean managed to stave off the boredom of having nothing to do.
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Reverse grid race based on championship standing instead of qualifying at 3 races next year - stupid idea or what?
How about not having a sig at all?
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Interesting idea. In theory I think it could give more overtaking as the leaders work their way through the field, and allow someone in the midfield more of a chance to shine.
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It’s looking more like Lewis will take his 6th WDC in Austin now, Mexico will be a tough one.
Well done on Merc getting the constructors and doing it for a sixth time, I didn’t think we’d see anyone else do that since Ferrari’s dominance in the early 2000’s.
Well done on Merc getting the constructors and doing it for a sixth time, I didn’t think we’d see anyone else do that since Ferrari’s dominance in the early 2000’s.
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Post race stuff- leclerc give a 15 second penalty, dropping him from 6th to 7th and promoting ricciardo to 6th- 5 seconds for hitting Verstappen, 10 seconds for driving car in unsafe condition- his wing end plate narrowly missing Hamilton’s cockpit area when it flew off, taking Hamilton’s wing mirror with it https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... P8tBw.html
Ricciardo’s 6th and hulks 10th could be at risk as force point India racing have lodged a complaint due to a brake balance altering system that automatically adjusted the balance on a set lap
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... 9lHMa.html
Ricciardo’s 6th and hulks 10th could be at risk as force point India racing have lodged a complaint due to a brake balance altering system that automatically adjusted the balance on a set lap
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... 9lHMa.html
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Why the fuck did they let Le Clerc stay out with that damage? He couldn’t see it so fair enough the decision wasn’t his, but it Was obviously going to come off and it destroyed Hamilton’s wing mirror when it did - which would have easily been is helmet.
The stewards should have a serious investigation into their decision. Because they fucked up there.
The stewards should have a serious investigation into their decision. Because they fucked up there.
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They told him to box, he said no, he wanted to stay out longer.Rich B wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:00 pm Why the fuck did they let Le Clerc stay out with that damage? He couldn’t see it so fair enough the decision wasn’t his, but it Was obviously going to come off and it destroyed Hamilton’s wing mirror when it did - which would have easily been is helmet.
The stewards should have a serious investigation into their decision. Because they fucked up there.
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im talking about an investigation into the stewards, not the teams decision, there should have been a black/orange circle flag imo.NotoriousREV wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:18 pmThey told him to box, he said no, he wanted to stay out longer.Rich B wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:00 pm Why the fuck did they let Le Clerc stay out with that damage? He couldn’t see it so fair enough the decision wasn’t his, but it Was obviously going to come off and it destroyed Hamilton’s wing mirror when it did - which would have easily been is helmet.
The stewards should have a serious investigation into their decision. Because they fucked up there.
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I was replying to the “why the fuck did they let LeClerc stay out”. The team didn’t, they told him to box and he stayed out. He was shown the black flag with orange circle by the marshalls but he stayed out as long as he could. Once the end plate fell off, the flag was withdrawn.Rich B wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:25 pmim talking about an investigation into the stewards, not the teams decision, there should have been a black/orange circle flag imo.NotoriousREV wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:18 pmThey told him to box, he said no, he wanted to stay out longer.Rich B wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:00 pm Why the fuck did they let Le Clerc stay out with that damage? He couldn’t see it so fair enough the decision wasn’t his, but it Was obviously going to come off and it destroyed Hamilton’s wing mirror when it did - which would have easily been is helmet.
The stewards should have a serious investigation into their decision. Because they fucked up there.
In the end the FIA had to call Binotto to tell him to pit his driver because they still considered it dangerous and Merc were complaining.
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