Cash machine blunders

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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by Jobbo » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:18 pm

NotoriousREV wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:56 pm
Rich B wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:45 pm
It still doesn’t sound much like money laundering? It’s just theft.
Theft followed by paying the money into a clean account, which would be called..?
It was described as already being in a clean account.

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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by NotoriousREV » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:19 pm

The first account is clean. It’s the money being stolen from the clean account that is being laundered.
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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by Rich B » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:22 pm

NotoriousREV wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:59 pm
Rich B wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:58 pm
It is happening. It is awful. End of.

Is it money laundering?

Discuss.
When they use other clean accounts to filter the money through, yes, it’s money laundering.

Scrote A takes cash out of an account at an ATM, which will be captured on cctv. He passes the cash to Scrote B somewhere he can’t be seen. Scrote B pays money into a different clean account. The money can’t be linked between the 2 scrotes and is therefore now laundered.
That distances Scrote A from the robbery element, but then Scrote A then has no money... and then Scrote B eventually gets investigated for large amounts of cash deposits being paid into his account with no explanation for how it was made.

surely the point of laundering is to give a legitimate origin to the money?

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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by NotoriousREV » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:27 pm

Rich B wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:22 pm
NotoriousREV wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:59 pm
Rich B wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:58 pm
It is happening. It is awful. End of.

Is it money laundering?

Discuss.
When they use other clean accounts to filter the money through, yes, it’s money laundering.

Scrote A takes cash out of an account at an ATM, which will be captured on cctv. He passes the cash to Scrote B somewhere he can’t be seen. Scrote B pays money into a different clean account. The money can’t be linked between the 2 scrotes and is therefore now laundered.
That distances Scrote A from the robbery element, but then Scrote A then has no money... and then Scrote B eventually gets investigated for large amounts of cash deposits being paid into his account with no explanation for how it was made.

surely the point of laundering is to give a legitimate origin to the money?
It’s not Scrote Bs account. It’s just another account they control. Imagine you have some confused old duck who’s been controlled. The police interview them, but they don’t get a clear answer on anything, or they’ve been given a story by the gang that they repeat. Or, more likely, the second account is never discovered because there’s no obvious criminal link to it. Everyone gets a cut (or doesn’t get their legs broken) for their part in the chain.

This is why banks have recently stopped you paying cash into someone else’s account except by bank transfer. It was a huge problem for the police so they got the banking rules changed.
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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by Broccers » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:27 pm

I consider this just theft not money laundering. #notriggerhere

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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by NotoriousREV » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:28 pm

Broccers wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:27 pm
I consider this just theft not money laundering. #notriggerhere
Well, you’re wrong.
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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by Broccers » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:30 pm

NotoriousREV wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:28 pm
Broccers wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:27 pm
I consider this just theft not money laundering. #notriggerhere
Well, you’re wrong.
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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by Orange Cola » Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:51 pm

NotoriousREV wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:28 pm
Broccers wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:27 pm
I consider this just theft not money laundering. #notriggerhere
Well, you’re wrong.
Cheers Dave! :)

I remember being told about this for the first time and it’s horrendous what goes on with some people’s money.

I think most people haven’t picked up on the laundering bit because a significant chunk of the money the criminals are taking is coming directly from the state via welfare payments, the more intelligent criminals will manipulate a vulnerable person to increase the amount of money the state pays into their account before creaming it off the top. Therefore it’s laundering because it’s acquiring money from the state via false pretences and the cash doesn’t even remain with the intended recipient.

The pratting around at cash points disconnects these folk from the source of cash.

It really was ‘easy’ money being made by gangs.
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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by JLv3.0 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:05 pm

Still don't get it, but then I'm a thick cunt apparently. Thanks Dave, not been insulted by you in a while now.

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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by NotoriousREV » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:25 pm

JLv3.0 wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:05 pm
Still don't get it, but then I'm a thick cunt apparently. Thanks Dave, not been insulted by you in a while now.
Dry ‘em. It seems you’re quite happy dishing it out, but not happy being on the receiving end.
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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by JLv3.0 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:38 pm

I try to steer clear of the actual name calling that you resort to with surprisingly little 'provocation' (wasn't even trying to provoke you in this case) - admittedly not always successfully. Anyway - whatever.

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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by Orange Cola » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:40 pm

Did you read the newspaper articles Dave posted?
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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by JLv3.0 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:41 pm

Yes, I did and fully understand the concept of cuckooing now, something I was unaware of previously and frankly a new low in terms of human behaviour. Why?

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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by NotoriousREV » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:45 pm

JLv3.0 wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:38 pm
I try to steer clear of the actual name calling that you resort to with surprisingly little 'provocation' (wasn't even trying to provoke you in this case) - admittedly not always successfully. Anyway - whatever.
You don’t think trying to make me look ridiculous by saying I’m “triggered” when sharing my opinion, or that I’m “invested” in the thread because I don’t have a job is an insult? You don’t think that’s provocative? Do you really not see that saying those things to someone is going to elicit a reaction of some sort? Again, I’m struggling to choose between stupid and naive.
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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by JLv3.0 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:50 pm

Yep I see all that. It wasn't meant to upset you, surely you know my sense of humour by now.

Anyway - I'm out.

Except to say you've already chosen stupid over naive as you didn't call me a naive cunt.

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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by V8Granite » Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:00 pm

This place gets closer and closer to Pistonheads.

Can we all get back to the old days where you either love or hate V-Tec and then spread some love :D

Also we need Mick to Focus Broccers attention.

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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by Broccers » Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:03 pm

Don't bring me into Dave! It's these squabbling children who have ruined my thread 😂😄😄.
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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by JLv3.0 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:04 pm

I think the older and more objectionable I get, the more I hate other old and objectionable people. Might be time for a little break :D

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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by Mito Man » Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:15 pm

You guys needs to sit down with a glass of water and start popping your pills.
How about not having a sig at all?

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Re: Cash machine blunders

Post by 240PP » Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:45 pm

Magnesium and a group hug.

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