Harry’s Garage

[Simon]

Again, I think so many are missing the point of this. Don't forget the prototype was a 2 door. This is little more than a 2+2. I think the rear doors are for anyone who just doesn't want to tilt their front seats for the kids to get in the back.

It's a statement vehicle. It's fast, comfortable, and looks brilliant. Simple. Compare it to a DB11, not a FFRR.

[Rich B]

Again, I think so many are missing the point of this. Don't forget the prototype was a 2 door. This is little more than a 2+2. I think the rear doors are for anyone who just doesn't want to tilt their front seats for the kids to get in the back.

It's a statement vehicle. It's fast, comfortable, and looks brilliant. Simple. Compare it to a DB11, not a FFRR.

if that was the case, they should have made it 2 door or made the rear doors like an RX8. Unfortunately it looks like they were told at the last minute it needed to be a 4 door and they budged it. It looks bodged too and that will be the statement every time you get in and out.

[mik]

I loved the rear doors on the RX8. Yeah it could be a slight pain that the fronts had to be opened first, but the access they provided made that worth the inconvenience.

[Mito Man]

For a car with no rear space or boot to be 25cm longer than my FFRR is ridiculous. Particularly when you factor into it that you'll be looking forward through a letter box and have a tiny digital screen for a rear view mirror. Manoeuvring it must be an absolute pig.

I was beside a London favourite - the Quattroporte today and thought it's quite long so looked up the dimensions

I think the Jag will be ok in London. Not the most practical family car but you can probably fit teenage sized kids in there just fine.

[KiwiDave]

I saw someone say Harry had essentially let slip in his other video that the deposit was for a Valhalla?

[GG.]

If it is a Valhalla and he personalises it through Q then it will likely not be "hundreds" of thousands but over a million. Personally it seems like one of the least interesting ways to spend seven figures on an automobile. I'm not sure why but the Zonda having a Mercedes V12 never bothered me (possible because it sounded incredible) but the AMG V8 being used in an 850k car I wouldn't be happy with at all, particularly as it sounds worse in flat plane guise than in normal cross-plane format.

Also, Valhallas were sold out from the factory in 2023 so I don't actually think it is that.

[GG.]

Again, I think so many are missing the point of this. Don't forget the prototype was a 2 door. This is little more than a 2+2. I think the rear doors are for anyone who just doesn't want to tilt their front seats for the kids to get in the back.

It's a statement vehicle. It's fast, comfortable, and looks brilliant. Simple. Compare it to a DB11, not a FFRR.

if that was the case, they should have made it 2 door or made the rear doors like an RX8. Unfortunately it looks like they were told at the last minute it needed to be a 4 door and they budged it. It looks bodged too and that will be the statement every time you get in and out.

Yes. A statement. Of incompetence.

[Jobbo]

I saw someone say Harry had essentially let slip in his other video that the deposit was for a Valhalla?

Which video was that? I thought I'd watched them generally and in the 12Cilindri one he did say he'd buy one. Don't remember him saying that about the Valhalla. And I know he's allergic to depreciation so I think the Valhalla would be a bit of a risk.

[integrale_evo]

I thought he absolutely hated the electronic interface on all of the modern Ferraris. Whether that would be enough to put him off buying one I don’t know.

[KiwiDave]

I think I read it as a comment from someone under the Project 8 video - basically saying 'but you already gave it away last week saying you were buying a Valhalla.'

And I read the Project 8 video as saying the several hundred grand was the deposit necessary, not the whole cost of the car?

[Jobbo]

He said in the P7 video that he’d already put down a returnable deposit and that the car was a few hundred thousand - that could quite reasonably be Harry downplaying a car for a million or so but not much more than £1m.

I did watch the Valhalla video and while he definitely liked it far more than I expected, I didn’t notice him say he wanted to buy one.

[RobYob]

I'm not sure why but the Zonda having a Mercedes V12 never bothered me (possible because it sounded incredible) but the AMG V8 being used in an 850k car I wouldn't be happy with at all, particularly as it sounds worse in flat plane guise than in normal cross-plane format.

Just more layers inbetween driver and power to the road. Auto trans doing this or that on its own logic, likewise the turbos and E assist.

Simple, manual, NA, great combo. Add the magic of 12 cylinders and huge power and it's probably impossible to better.

[V8Granite]

I'm not sure why but the Zonda having a Mercedes V12 never bothered me (possible because it sounded incredible) but the AMG V8 being used in an 850k car I wouldn't be happy with at all, particularly as it sounds worse in flat plane guise than in normal cross-plane format.

Just more layers inbetween driver and power to the road. Auto trans doing this or that on its own logic, likewise the turbos and E assist.

Simple, manual, NA, great combo. Add the magic of 12 cylinders and huge power and it's probably impossible to better.

Agree 100%.

As the ability of the car has gone so far beyond most drivers then the performance needs to feel more visceral than ever.

Dave!

[Zonda_]

He said in the P7 video that he’d already put down a returnable deposit and that the car was a few hundred thousand - that could quite reasonably be Harry downplaying a car for a million or so but not much more than £1m.

I did watch the Valhalla video and while he definitely liked it far more than I expected, I didn’t notice him say he wanted to buy one.

I though he said it was "hundreds of thousands" maybe I misheard. Wonder if the current video is a clue...

[Jobbo]

I wasn’t quoting verbatim so yes, he may have said it exactly as you put Gav. When I heard it I assume he meant less than a million, but if it was £1.1m it would still be quite possible that he was downplaying his expenditure. Using his Timculator.

[Zonda_]

I wasn’t quoting verbatim so yes, he may have said it exactly as you put Gav. When I heard it I assume he meant less than a million, but if it was £1.1m it would still be quite possible that he was downplaying his expenditure. Using his Timculator.

Just watching the new vid and at one point he says "glad I didn't bring my Utopia Roadster!

[Mito Man]

Utopia Roadster would be cool but have you seen the price of them

[Jobbo]

Harry did say they’re all sold as well. But then he said a few times he was going go the toe of Italy when it’s obviously the heel. So who knows

[integrale_evo]

I’m not really into supercars, but I think pagan is are fantastic. Properly flamboyant, a little bit chintzy in some of the details, but the attention to detail is absurd.

I know most prefer a screaming nasp, but good lord those turbo whooshes, hisses and flutters do it for me.

[Mito Man]

They have a bit of a cult following.