EV Thread

[Sundayjumper]

It'll take as much as it can get up to the maximum rate. But you can restrict that on the charger as well.

The charger & the car negotiate the highest mutual current, taking into account the cable too. Described well here:

https://xj600e.com/2020/01/20/charging- ... ec62196-2/

[duncs500]

So replacement for the UP GTi - the Honda E arrived after collecting from a small village outside of Lincoln and a 112 mile journey home - it was squeaky bum time as I had 10 miles to go and 10 miles of range, and bottled it to get a bit of juice. Still, got 4.3m/kw which was decent.



Love the interior, most of all. Feels quality, looks great, and very quirky. Mirror cameras, and LCD rear view take some getting used to, but work surprisingly well even at night...although admittedly I'd prefer proper glass (the rear view can be switched, once I figure out how). Those bits especially feel like "tech for the sake of tech".

Otherwise, drives well, plenty of grip but a fair bit of roll (upside is, comfy ride). Very much feels it's weight after the Up! Turning circle is hilariously small. Plenty of poke off the line, more than enough for the daily duties. Front lights are brilliant. Very little boot space, even compared to the Up. Seats are "ok". Using the paddles to adjust regen braking works very, very well.

120 mile range will never be a problem, as anything long distance I'll undoubtable be using the Evora or someone else's car anyway. My new EV energy deal doesn't kick in until next week so I have the freedom to currently charge whenever

Playing catch up after seeing this on insta. I love these and wish we had space to have one for the daily runaround. Loving your two car garage! Apart from taking big things to the tip it covers a lot of bases very well!

[JonMad]

* hits auto trader / filters on Honda *
Looks great

[Swervin_Mervin]

Must admit, the wife's currently increasingly distracted by the R5. But I reckon if she starts to think more seriously I might suggest she tries the Honda out as well. Love these things. It's just such a shame Honda didn't have the confidence to keep on with them - could absolutely have been an R5 challenger at present.

[Matty]

Yeah boot space is definitely a premium now

Re: the R5 alternative...difficult to justify the now 5-6 year old Honda with its limited range, against paying £5-6k more for the fully warrantied, much longer range R5. You've got to be very much sold on it's quirkiness.

The 60-70 mile range in winter for the Honda is especially hurdle for many. Only takea a couple of trips in December before range anxiety kicks in.

[Barry]

Gal at work has an R4, same thing but often cheaper deals about. I think it looks cool too.

I'm still side-eyeing ev leasing, hoping something interesting shows up but not rushing at anything just yet. Jazz is doing 55mpg so not a massive ££ at the moment anyway.

[integrale_evo]

Been to the fiat website to look at pandas.

Pretty dissapointed with the options - or lack of. Is this normal with modern cars or just a fiat thing?

The basic and mid specs you can only have red unless you want to pay extra. Only one wheel available for each spec.

Go for the top spec icon which gets you more kit and nicer interior and the only standard colour is the metallic yellow, you have to pay £750 for the solid red that’s standard on the other trims. Plus the icon gets the horrible and over fussy diamond cut wheels.

Zero actual options on any of the trim levels, just accessories like mats and side stickers.

[Jobbo]

Pretty standard now, Harry. If you want a specific option it’ll either be in a pack with stuff you don’t care about or on a higher cost model. I think it’s all to do with WLTP certification meaning each option can contribute to a 0.0001g/km CO2 difference so the manufacturers bundle stuff rather than bothering to test combinations.

Must be possible because Porsche allow you to choose individual options still.

[Mito Man]

Soon they will revert back to the Model T style of selling. You can buy any colour you want, so long as it’s black.

[simon_g]

Disappointing that you can only get the steelies on base spec, but I think a red Pop would be fine. Configurator implies you need to move up to get the CarPlay/AA screen but it’s standard on base.

[Matty]

Well after a week with the Honda, I'm not sure I'd ever go back to ICE for the commute into work. Sitting in stop/start/slow traffic in silence is just great. Helps that it's a lot more refined than the Up, I suppose.

That being said, when it's quiet and you want to push on a bit, the lack of gears, noise and softer setup really takes any drama out of it, so it's not all great, but given it's primary role, this the preferable balance.

Overall though, really impressed with the Honda. Lots of positive comments, everyone loves the interior, 4miles/KW is easily achievable and I'm starting to get used to the mirror cameras as well. Oh, and the front lights are fantastic too.

[Rich B]

i sometimes wonder about chopping in the wife’s F31 for something like a Honda e. It never gets driven more than 20 miles and even that’s about once or twice a week max, the rest of time it’s just nipping round locally. But then a tank of diesel lasts her about 2 months and the car costs fuck all in the grand scheme so it would only really make sense if i used it a couple of times a week for my commute(which wouldn’t).

[V8Granite]

This is why the Honda does small electric car so well.

I've never understood the boring commuter car idea, it has to do something to make a trip interesting, whether it be great stereo, characterful engine, interesting interior etc. The Honda looks like it will make daily driving fun. There is an old lady with a Kei car, a tall white thing with different sides and cherry blossoms all over it, far more interesting than a Corsa.

Dave!

[JonMad]

Even with our relatively small annual mileage (<8k across two cars) I'm currently wondering if a super cheap EV lease could be justified almost on the fuel saving aspect, making it almost pay for itself - just a bit of road tax maybe, and minimal servicing. Insurance on a third car is probably the biggest additional cost involved. It would be interesting to try an EV out. R4s were temping at <£200/month recently. A neighbour got a small BYD that's now being used plenty - their Volvo V70 and M4 cabriolet getting much less use.

[Jobbo]

Road tax is £200 now for an R5 - even low emissions cars aren't as cheap as they used to be. But yes, there is an element of an EV paying for itself if you compare it to doing the same mileage in something a bit more thirsty.

[Matty]

Yeah the Honda costs the same to tax as the Evora does.

I reckon I'll be saving a about £800 a year in fuel, which is fairly significant even considering the Up was fairly frugal (but I was always using SUL) Will be interesting to see if they do introduce the 3p/mile extra tax in 18months time, or delay it.

[Shlergen]

Keeping an eye on this. I did circa 14k miles last year; at prices today thats circa £2,609 at an average 48mpg. Plus annual servicing which worked out at around 500, first few years minus tyres which it seems to eat will be vcheap.

I've got solar at home so the charging costs at 8p a kw are currently negated by energy put back into the grid. This will relatively low over next few months mind.