Bye bye Starmer

[Swervin_Mervin]

Aye, cause the other party leaders all seem like cool guys.

Davey is a wet blanket that gives off no vibes of a serious politician
Starmer is a grey suit with a set of pre-programmed soundbites
Badenoch is a try hard that doesn't seem to have grasped yet that the Tories are gone without fundamental reform (no, not Reform)
Farge is a grifting twat - what more do I need to say on that

Polanski is a massive bell.

Is that better?

I think he's as bad as Farage tbh.

[Jimmy Choo]

The sad reality of it is that Starmer isn't charismatic, like Major before him.

[ZedLeg]

Aye, cause the other party leaders all seem like cool guys.

Davey is a wet blanket that gives off no vibes of a serious politician
Starmer is a grey suit with a set of pre-programmed soundbites
Badenoch is a try hard that doesn't seem to have grasped yet that the Tories are gone without fundamental reform (no, not Reform)
Farge is a grifting twat - what more do I need to say on that

Polanski is a massive bell.

Is that better?

I think he's as bad as Farage tbh.

Why?

Genuinely interested. Farage is a self interested cunt that will burn this country to the ground if he gets something out of it.

I see Polanski as someone who’s at least trying to present a better future.

[DeskJockey]

Aye, cause the other party leaders all seem like cool guys.

Davey is a wet blanket that gives off no vibes of a serious politician
Starmer is a grey suit with a set of pre-programmed soundbites
Badenoch is a try hard that doesn't seem to have grasped yet that the Tories are gone without fundamental reform (no, not Reform)
Farge is a grifting twat - what more do I need to say on that

Polanski is a massive bell.

Is that better?

I think he's as bad as Farage tbh.

Why?

Genuinely interested. Farage is a self interested cunt that will burn this country to the ground if he gets something out of it.

I see Polanski as someone who’s at least trying to present a better future.

I agree with that. None of them are ideal, but the span from Fartrage to Polanski is substantial.

[Simon]

I just look across the spectrum of leaders and about-to-be-leaders and think 'christ, is this the best we can do?'. At least Starmer is principled, if uncharismatic, but the whole rest of them except for Davey are straight up pathetic.

[dinny_g]

Activity at #10 this morning...

[GG.]

Fucking hell - lectern has gone up. Looks like he is actually throwing the towel in.

[DeskJockey]

He's going. Live on the BBC.

[IanF]

So he’s resigning.. can you flip flop on a resignation? Another poor showing by Starmer.

I’ve no idea why Labour seems to be frothing with excitement about Burnham

[dinny_g]

I suspect the Labour Party will come to regret this decision...

[Delphi]

Aaaand he's gone https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ckger03mrl0t

[Mito Man]

So Trump’s tweet about it yesterday was true.

Whose really pulling the strings here

[duncs500]

I think it's a shame personally. Everyone cries out for some integrity and decency from our leaders and we get someone in post who has that and we essentially make his position untenable.

Despite not voting for him, I would have liked to have seen what he achieved by the next general election and then made my judgement. Changing a country even a bit needs at least a full term. Shame on the Labour party really, the MPs shafted the guy that got them there.

This whole idea that our leaders should be charismatic is bollocks as far as I'm concerned.

And so the never ending merry-go-round continues. Tories, Labour, none of them seem to be able to simply give us a stable term where they all work together to deliver polocies that make a change for the country.

[speedingfine]

I think it's a shame personally. Everyone cries out for some integrity and decency from our leaders and we get someone in post who has that and we essentially make his position untenable.

Despite not voting for him, I would have liked to have seen what he achieved by the next general election and then made my judgement. Changing a country even a bit needs at least a full term. Shame on the Labour party really, the MPs shafted the guy that got them there.

This whole idea that our leaders should be charismatic is bollocks as far as I'm concerned.

And so the never ending merry-go-round continues. Tories, Labour, none of them seem to be able to simply give us a stable term where they all work together to deliver polocies that make a change for the country.

[DeskJockey]

I think it's a shame personally. Everyone cries out for some integrity and decency from our leaders and we get someone in post who has that and we essentially make his position untenable.

Despite not voting for him, I would have liked to have seen what he achieved by the next general election and then made my judgement. Changing a country even a bit needs at least a full term. Shame on the Labour party really, the MPs shafted the guy that got them there.

This whole idea that our leaders should be charismatic is bollocks as far as I'm concerned.

And so the never ending merry-go-round continues. Tories, Labour, none of them seem to be able to simply give us a stable term where they all work together to deliver polocies that make a change for the country.

Thirded.

[Beany]

Labour shafting their own leaders when they really need to get their shit together is going to destroy the party, frankly. And they'd fully deserve it.

[dinny_g]

Labour's policies may be different but they're no different than the Tory's in their Political Behaviour

At least the electorate can no longer deny this, so perhaps politics can go back to policy, rather than lazy point scoring

Of course it won't...

[240PP]

I don’t rate him or his policies but he deserves credit for the way he handled Trump, at least. There’s no blueprint for that but I think he did alright.

[Marv]

Labour's policies may be different but they're no different than the Tory's in their Political Behaviour

At least the electorate can no longer deny this, so perhaps politics can go back to policy, rather than lazy point scoring

Of course it won't...

Whole political system needs a full upheaval, from the roots upwards.

[Jobbo]

I think it's a shame personally. Everyone cries out for some integrity and decency from our leaders and we get someone in post who has that and we essentially make his position untenable.

Despite not voting for him, I would have liked to have seen what he achieved by the next general election and then made my judgement. Changing a country even a bit needs at least a full term. Shame on the Labour party really, the MPs shafted the guy that got them there.

This whole idea that our leaders should be charismatic is bollocks as far as I'm concerned.

And so the never ending merry-go-round continues. Tories, Labour, none of them seem to be able to simply give us a stable term where they all work together to deliver polocies that make a change for the country.

If Burnham does get in, it'll demonstrate that a bit of popularity can make you PM even if you aren't an MP. What if Clarkson fancied a go? I'm sure he'd find a way (maybe under a Tory incumbent government at least). In a generation's time it could be someone who did alright on Love Island who gets the chance to be PM.

Maybe we need a more presidential system. Trump is awful, far worse approval ratings than Starmer, yet he gets to serve his full term.