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ZedLeg wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 9:37 am I’ve said before that I live next to Govanhill which is regularly on the list of high immigrant population “no go areas” and it’s fine.

Also full of skint lgbtq+ people and voted Green at the elections.

Try and argue that with folk who believe in them and you’re an out of touch metropolitan elite though :lol:
Ironically I live in an area with a low white British population and plenty of LGBTQ too (we have permanent 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈 flags painted on the high street) and it’s also home to some of the key players in the BBC pay-for-gay-asylum scam expose :(

Maybe it’s different out in the provinces but when people say no-go zones in London they usually just mean the crime is done by brown people instead of white people :lol:
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Govanhill had a double whammy as it was Nicola Sturgeon’s constituency so people used to make up the most horrible rumours to see what would stick.

Worst one I heard was that Romanian folk were prostituting their kids, it was investigated and nothing was found yet the rumour remains.
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DeskJockey wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 10:41 am I've said it before, and I'll say it again. FPtP needs to go, it is designed to maintain the status quo, doesn't allow for diversity of thought, enforces voter apathy, and is not a fair voting system.

On a separate note, as of last Tuesday I'm now a British citizen.
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DeskJockey wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 10:41 am I've said it before, and I'll say it again. FPtP needs to go, it is designed to maintain the status quo, doesn't allow for diversity of thought, enforces voter apathy, and is not a fair voting system.

On a separate note, as of last Tuesday I'm now a British citizen.
Congrats on becoming a Brit. Now go join a queue and drink some tea.

On FPTP I've gone back and forward on it. On the one hand people tend to vote for more mainstream 'centrist' parties so their votes aren't wasted. On the other, if you had PR people would be less afraid to vote for extremes because 'every vote would count'.
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A no go area isn't a no go for all, I'll walk around the rowing lake all day long. I wouldn't let my wife or kids to walk about there though.
The rowing club were told by the police, an old school friend, that they should stop the early morning rowing by the girls/ women unless the men are also in attendance. It's right by the hotel that is solely housing illegal Immigrants.

The locals have reported lots of issues but nothing is being done. Even me and my much bigger friend were screamed at as a guy was informing us what to do when you find a dead body, he followed us on the footpath as we were kayaking down the Nene.

It's like saying I don't believe anyone has any issues with speeders as we don't get any in my town.

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DeskJockey wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 10:41 am I've said it before, and I'll say it again. FPtP needs to go, it is designed to maintain the status quo, doesn't allow for diversity of thought, enforces voter apathy, and is not a fair voting system.

On a separate note, as of last Tuesday I'm now a British citizen.
You'll find yourself shedding a tear on the queens birthday, this is perfectly normal.

You also now have an opinion on brown sauce.

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V8Granite wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 12:49 pm A no go area isn't a no go for all, I'll walk around the rowing lake all day long. I wouldn't let my wife or kids to walk about there though.
The rowing club were told by the police, an old school friend, that they should stop the early morning rowing by the girls/ women unless the men are also in attendance. It's right by the hotel that is solely housing illegal Immigrants.

The locals have reported lots of issues but nothing is being done. Even me and my much bigger friend were screamed at as a guy was informing us what to do when you find a dead body, he followed us on the footpath as we were kayaking down the Nene.

It's like saying I don't believe anyone has any issues with speeders as we don't get any in my town.

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As with any racial profiling, it’s more like saying that all drivers are maniacs doing 150 outside schools because you’ve caught a couple of people doing that.
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Thank you. I've queued, drunk tea, discussed the weather, and put my towel down on a sun lounger I might use in July.

The problem with FPtP is that so many votes are wasted. If you have ten candidates for a seat and one of them gets 11% of the vote, is that a fair democratic mandate? 89% voted for someone else. At least in PR it is an overall share of the national vote that determines the number of MPs each party gets.

That will inevitably lead to coalitions (if not all the time, then very often), and that will temper the excesses of the one party way of governing. I think we've seen enough evidence over the last nearly two decades that the "official opposition" isn't really working as a balance anymore.

People may well vote for parties further from the centre, but that's not very different from today. Even if they do get MPs they'll not be any more effective unless the numbers become very significant, in which case they should be represented as the voice of a part of the population.
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ZedLeg wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 12:59 pm
V8Granite wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 12:49 pm A no go area isn't a no go for all, I'll walk around the rowing lake all day long. I wouldn't let my wife or kids to walk about there though.
The rowing club were told by the police, an old school friend, that they should stop the early morning rowing by the girls/ women unless the men are also in attendance. It's right by the hotel that is solely housing illegal Immigrants.

The locals have reported lots of issues but nothing is being done. Even me and my much bigger friend were screamed at as a guy was informing us what to do when you find a dead body, he followed us on the footpath as we were kayaking down the Nene.

It's like saying I don't believe anyone has any issues with speeders as we don't get any in my town.

Dave!
As with any racial profiling, it’s more like saying that all drivers are maniacs doing 150 outside schools because you’ve caught a couple of people doing that.
If I'm with 9 friends and 1 is being a twat, we self police and stop the one from being a twat.

Why if it's so few are they not doing the same ?

If it's so few why aren't they easily detained and removed ?

I would be amazed if it is a small percentage actually wishing to cause trouble. They have shown themselves to be happy doing illegal things by coming here in the way they do anyway.

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Simon wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 12:00 pm
DeskJockey wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 10:41 am I've said it before, and I'll say it again. FPtP needs to go, it is designed to maintain the status quo, doesn't allow for diversity of thought, enforces voter apathy, and is not a fair voting system.

On a separate note, as of last Tuesday I'm now a British citizen.
Congrats on becoming a Brit. Now go join a queue and drink some tea.
Agreed. And remember, it's never OK to refuse tea.

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Matty wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 2:03 pm
Simon wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 12:00 pm
DeskJockey wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 10:41 am I've said it before, and I'll say it again. FPtP needs to go, it is designed to maintain the status quo, doesn't allow for diversity of thought, enforces voter apathy, and is not a fair voting system.

On a separate note, as of last Tuesday I'm now a British citizen.
Congrats on becoming a Brit. Now go join a queue and drink some tea.
Agreed. And remember, it's never OK to refuse tea.

Don't worry, it was one of the questions in the Life in Britain test, so I'm fully aware. Refusal carries a mandatory three year suspended sentence and six points on your licence.
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V8Granite wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 12:49 pm Even me and my much bigger friend were screamed at
Madre el dios how fucking big was that guy??? :lol:
JLv3.0 wrote: Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:26 pm I say this rarely Dave, but listen to Dinny because he's right.
Rich B wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:57 pm but Dinny was right…
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