You're quite right, and well made watches do have screw heads that all align (you can see that in the image of that YouTube video above on the watch on the left)integrale_evo wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 6:58 pm Surely super fancy machining should be able to align the thread start points on both holes and fixings to all match so all screws line up the same when they’re at the required torque?![]()
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The screws on the actual watch face are worse because you can see that whoever assembled it was trying to align them all horizontally but each one is off by just a little.
How about not having a sig at all?
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Probably a better bet than a Swatch Fifty Fathoms -
https://www.marloewatchcompany.com/coll ... xXH.LKyv2x
Tried on a proper Fifty Fathoms at Selfridges in Oxford Street last year. I was surprised how small the 42 version shows, seemed similar in size to my 39 Tudor. At £18k though you'd have to really want one to walk past a submariner at half the money.
https://www.marloewatchcompany.com/coll ... xXH.LKyv2x
Tried on a proper Fifty Fathoms at Selfridges in Oxford Street last year. I was surprised how small the 42 version shows, seemed similar in size to my 39 Tudor. At £18k though you'd have to really want one to walk past a submariner at half the money.
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Or you could spend £100 insteadHolley wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 2:11 pm Probably a better bet than a Swatch Fifty Fathoms -
https://www.marloewatchcompany.com/coll ... xXH.LKyv2x
Tried on a proper Fifty Fathoms at Selfridges in Oxford Street last year. I was surprised how small the 42 version shows, seemed similar in size to my 39 Tudor. At £18k though you'd have to really want one to walk past a submariner at half the money.
https://watchdives.com/collections/new- ... dive-watch
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Speaking of watches, I'm having a massive itch at the moment for a Rolex Submariner (the proper, no date version)
There's virtually no chance of getting one at list price from a dealer, so it would be a circa £10k purchase on the grey market
Technically I can afford it, the only thing stopping me, is me
IYRWT etc
I'm just incredible torn, mainly it's the having to pay a premium like that for something which is basically mass produced (but for which there's huge demand)
There's virtually no chance of getting one at list price from a dealer, so it would be a circa £10k purchase on the grey market
Technically I can afford it, the only thing stopping me, is me
IYRWT etc
I'm just incredible torn, mainly it's the having to pay a premium like that for something which is basically mass produced (but for which there's huge demand)
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I would rather wait a year and get one from a dealer than from the grey market. Part of buying process is the experience and assuming your local dealer is decent, it would be a better experience. Plus if you do change your mind, you don't have to buy it when it comes in (which could be faster than a year)DaveE wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 2:28 pm Speaking of watches, I'm having a massive itch at the moment for a Rolex Submariner (the proper, no date version)
There's virtually no chance of getting one at list price from a dealer, so it would be a circa £10k purchase on the grey market
Technically I can afford it, the only thing stopping me, is me
IYRWT etc
I'm just incredible torn, mainly it's the having to pay a premium like that for something which is basically mass produced (but for which there's huge demand)
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If only it was a year (for someone like me with no purchase history etc)
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Controversial suggestion (and you may spit your tea out) but try getting a homage/clone watch and seeing if you really want it? I think if you hate the look of it on your wrist then it may make the decision for you, but if you enjoy the feel of it then it only confirms your desire.DaveE wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 2:28 pm Speaking of watches, I'm having a massive itch at the moment for a Rolex Submariner (the proper, no date version)
There's virtually no chance of getting one at list price from a dealer, so it would be a circa £10k purchase on the grey market
Technically I can afford it, the only thing stopping me, is me
IYRWT etc
I'm just incredible torn, mainly it's the having to pay a premium like that for something which is basically mass produced (but for which there's huge demand)
E.g. a watchdives, thorn or san martin
https://watchdives.com/products/watchdi ... 0801800410
https://watchdives.com/collections/watc ... iver-watch
https://watchdives.com/collections/san- ... sn0121t-gb
https://www.thornwatches.com/products/t ... 5152681268
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I get the cachet of Rolex, buuuuut - if I was in the market for doing some spendy on that type of thing (which I am not) I think the Pelagos (yes it has a date, but no stoopid cyclops) looks chunkier and funkier.DaveE wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 2:28 pm Speaking of watches, I'm having a massive itch at the moment for a Rolex Submariner (the proper, no date version)
edit - and non-date if you go for the 39mm instead

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I've got and have had several Submariner like watches, and as nice as the Pelagos is, it isn't a Submariner 
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Hi guys, I've got a Submariner with the date. I never knew I'd made such a fool of myself. Must consult you more in future.
I drive a Cayman GTS 4.0 currently. Should I torch that to save further embarrassment?
I drive a Cayman GTS 4.0 currently. Should I torch that to save further embarrassment?
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I'll help you out of your misery. £100 CASH my way and I'll take both of your hands, never to trouble your sensibilities again.PaulJ wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 8:25 pm Hi guys, I've got a Submariner with the date. I never knew I'd made such a fool of myself. Must consult you more in future.
I drive a Cayman GTS 4.0 currently. Should I torch that to save further embarrassment?
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I've considered your kind offer, but I'll surf this wave of embarrassment and stick with what I've got thanks.DeskJockey wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 9:20 pmI'll help you out of your misery. £100 CASH my way and I'll take both of your hands, never to trouble your sensibilities again.PaulJ wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 8:25 pm Hi guys, I've got a Submariner with the date. I never knew I'd made such a fool of myself. Must consult you more in future.
I drive a Cayman GTS 4.0 currently. Should I torch that to save further embarrassment?
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You're loss m8. Their probably both fakes. And your stepped in poo.PaulJ wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 3:45 pmI've considered your kind offer, but I'll surf this wave of embarrassment and stick with what I've got thanks.DeskJockey wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 9:20 pmI'll help you out of your misery. £100 CASH my way and I'll take both of your hands, never to trouble your sensibilities again.PaulJ wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 8:25 pm Hi guys, I've got a Submariner with the date. I never knew I'd made such a fool of myself. Must consult you more in future.
I drive a Cayman GTS 4.0 currently. Should I torch that to save further embarrassment?![]()
(just writing that made my eye twitch)
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