Swervin_Mervin wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:42 pm
I hope the rumours of the rights going to TNT aren't true - this could be the last year of FTA 6 Nations. Which would be a huge blow to the sport imo.
From BBC article:
The BBC will provide live TV coverage, TV highlights and digital clips of the championship, including five matches involving Scotland and Wales each year.
ITV will broadcast 10 live games each season including every England fixture for the duration of the deal, which starts in 2026.
I'm trying to get my head round the permutations of this, does this mean we might not get Ireland vs France anymore?
It sounds like they're trying to make it sound like you don't get to see them all, but if it adds up to 15 games, then...?
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:42 pm
I hope the rumours of the rights going to TNT aren't true - this could be the last year of FTA 6 Nations. Which would be a huge blow to the sport imo.
From BBC article:
The BBC will provide live TV coverage, TV highlights and digital clips of the championship, including five matches involving Scotland and Wales each year.
ITV will broadcast 10 live games each season including every England fixture for the duration of the deal, which starts in 2026.
I'm trying to get my head round the permutations of this, does this mean we might not get Ireland vs France anymore?
It sounds like they're trying to make it sound like you don't get to see them all, but if it adds up to 15 games, then...?
Its just delineating by channel, no? 10 games on ITV and 5 on BBC. Yes you can watch them all but not on the same provider.
ITV have an anchor point around England and BBC Wales and Scotland.
Clearly it's newspeak decipherable only to lawyers (which probably took them 4 hours to draft)
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:42 pm
I hope the rumours of the rights going to TNT aren't true - this could be the last year of FTA 6 Nations. Which would be a huge blow to the sport imo.
From BBC article:
The BBC will provide live TV coverage, TV highlights and digital clips of the championship, including five matches involving Scotland and Wales each year.
ITV will broadcast 10 live games each season including every England fixture for the duration of the deal, which starts in 2026.
I'm trying to get my head round the permutations of this, does this mean we might not get Ireland vs France anymore?
It sounds like they're trying to make it sound like you don't get to see them all, but if it adds up to 15 games, then...?
@Carlos I respect your knowledge of the modern game so talk me through the Ireland yellow/red today. It was well debated in the pub, for me was simply protecting himself and did so when the pass was released, no chance it was premeditated and 50/50 contact at best.
Do they really think about the time aspect when they analyse these things? It seemed like total instinct to me, and no chance any card (let alone a red). All felt a bit like the attacking player got all the protection but the defensive player was not allowed to even exist!
Yeah bias aside, I really didn’t think it was more than 50/50 contact. Arm’s weren’t moving for a tackle but they’re in a defensive position and I’m not sure there was head contact.
Barrett was stunned by it though…
JLv3.0 wrote: Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:26 pm
I say this rarely Dave, but listen to Dinny because he's right.
Rich B wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:57 pm
but Dinny was right…
duncs500 wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2025 10:51 pm
@Carlos I respect your knowledge of the modern game so talk me through the Ireland yellow/red today.
I didn’t see it, so just went looking. I can’t believe that was a red
Only just watched it as my wife was Rygbied out after the England and Scotland game
Only watched highlights so don't have lots of angles they may have used live or with TMO footage.
I view that as a Yellow card. It can't be seen as a penalty only as it's not an accidental head contact,
Beirne is a defender attempting to make a tackle but always too upright with no arms out to wrap. Brace position doesn't help his cause as could be viewed as a shoulder charge to head so potentially Red.
Mitigation down to Yellow in my opinion as he's pretty much static so not a high degree of force and therefore danger to the collision and that his available time to bend and wrap is almost zero as Barrett takes the ball from potentially an offside position but certainly from a forward pass from his 9. Basically Beirne has no time to react and get himself in a safe shape to tackle.
Regardless it's foul play and head contact so the defender has to take the responsibility to set lower with arms out.
@Carlos fair enough. For me, I felt very sorry for Beirne, it happened very quickly, but I accept that the game has changed around these kinds of incidents.
Managed to get tickets for England vs Wales in Feb, the Ireland game was the one I was really after (strangely mates with more Irish rugby fans than any other nation including England!). But being at the opening England match and against Wales should still be an amazing atmosphere.
Excellent point... it's been a long day. 
