Wales 20mph limit

[Mito Man]

Wandsworth Council have these posters everywhere “a little slower is a lot safer for everyone” with regards to the whole shithole being a 20 zone now
You’re more likely to be stabbed to death ffs.

[dinny_g]

Review of the 20mph after 3 months, the average speed has dropped 2.4mph. From 22.7mph to 20.3mph

So they've gone from a situation where, on average, no one broke the speed limit to one where, on average, everyone broke the speed limit.

How's the speed camera revenue looking ???

[GG.]

Hidden within that figure is the truth that actually driving conditions have got much worse. Even more time is being spent in stationary queuing traffic to the point that on a couple of occasions recently I've had to abandon my journey and go a very very long way round to avoid missing appointments, films at the cinema we'd booked, etc. because the traffic was at a standstill and hadn't moved in 10-15 minutes.

It also really ramps up the frustration as in London that "average" figure is very misleading - it is 50% doing 5mph in stationary traffic (or stopped) and then brief squits up to 30mph, save than the latter is now 20mph which just feels like you've gone from crawling to a slightly faster crawl.

[Rich B]

Review of the 20mph after 3 months, the average speed has dropped 2.4mph. From 22.7mph to 20.3mph

So they've gone from a situation where, on average, no one broke the speed limit to one where, on average, everyone broke the speed limit.

[Jobbo]

Review of the 20mph after 3 months, the average speed has dropped 2.4mph. From 22.7mph to 20.3mph

So they've gone from a situation where, on average, no one broke the speed limit to one where, on average, everyone broke the speed limit.

Excellent work, Dinny

[nuttinnew]

[Beany]

"Could"
"Should"

Distinct lack of definitives there. Funny that.

[240PP]

Can someone explain what I should be looking at?

[nuttinnew]

Can someone explain what I should be looking at?

I was hoping you could tell me


It seems they've cherry-picked a road with lots going on - entrances, lights, raised crossing, bus stop - to support the 20 "in busy pedestrian and residential areas", then shown it's quiet It's wishy-washy and limp.

[Barry]

The irony is that no rational human would argue against 20 in those areas, its the empty non residential stretches that were perfectly safe at 30mph but are now tedious and cause people to pay even less attention, that are the issue. But that would require rational reasoning and a focussed attempt to address any issue ( and more money ).

[Carlos]

I'm pretty sure lots of what's was 30 until recently was NSL during the 90s.

These are lightly enforced at 30 but painfully slow at 20!

I've done about 200 miles this week with my learner son and we get overtaken in a 20 each day!

It is intimidating to the point where on the last 2 occasions I've ask him to pull in and let traffic past which he shouldn't have to do.

[IanF]

https://news.sky.com/story/some-roads-i ... d-13119056

[duncs500]

LOL

[DaveE]

But have they published any data that shows if/what impact there's been to road safety, accidents, injuries etc?

[mik]

[nuttinnew]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glzl7e157o

[jamcg]

They really do hate cars in wales, don’t they

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c04gpp4w0rdo

[Jobbo]

Even our Cayenne doesn't weigh over 2,400kg so it's only going to catch the heaviest stuff - which does include things like the Discovery 3 and original Range Rover Sport. And many EVs which aren't SUVs...

[Gavster]

As bad as Islington. I went to park on a regular on-street bay for 1 hour, opened RingGo, added the bay number (61562) which said about £7 an hour, went through to the final screen and it said £14.25. For one hour, because diesel. On a residential street in Islington. FML.

[dinny_g]

My GLC is 2405 kg so just over the threshold...

But I'm never going to Cardiff so couldn't give a toss...