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Purely as a business decision end of 2021, I took delivery of a Model 3 Long Range to replace my M240i. This was initially a bit of a bummer as I loved the BMW as enjoyed the looks, sound and feel of the car. But with a lot of other outgoings elsewhere, I thought I would take advantage of the tax savings and reduced fuel costs on offer.

I really disliked the Tesla for the first few months. Hated the bland interior after the colourful red leather of the BMW, found the lack of a speedo dead ahead annoying, nearly crashed the car trying to work out where the windscreen wipers were and lack of any sound quite dull.

Once I stopped directly comparing it to what I was used to, it slowly wormed its way into my affections. It drives really well (it's very good up to about 7/10ths which is about as hard as I'll drive on the road), has a nice relaxed demeanour and lack of sound oddly became quite nice over time.

It's big plus is the performance you get for not much money. Autocar timed a long range at 10 seconds to 100mph which is quicker than my old M240i. It's quite fun racing other cars off the lights down dual carriageways. You realise that all the noise a combustion car makes trying to keep up is like a skinny guy screaming at the gym benching single plates. What's all the fuss about :lol: .

I'm averaging about 16k miles per year and yet in my tenure I've had no servicing costs, no road tax until this year and about £50 per month in home charging. If I still had the M240i the fuel costs alone would be over £300 per month.

I've done holiday trips to Scotland and several to Wales without any issue. The supercharger network is incredible and just easy (they recognise your car, so no need for direct payment, comes straight out your account). If anything getting parking is better because there's often spaces reserved for electric cars which are rarely full.

It does about 300 miles in the summer on a full charge which drops to about 250 in the winter. Not as advertised obviously, but more than enough for what I need.

Boot is huge which has always swallowed everything we need, very spacious in the back, plenty of glass area so visibility is excellent. Nothing has gone wrong in the 60k miles it's done and it feels pretty well put together regardless of what you read online. In fact it feels pretty much the same as it did when it was new.

Not having physical buttons is still annoying, I would much prefer climate control buttons. The wiper thing is just stupid and the triple bongs it makes when it thinks you've gone over a line has had me invent new swear words (although you can turn this off).

Lease deal ends in November so now comes the problem of what to replace it with. I can't go back to petrol with the miles I do as the cost to get this kind of performance would be significantly more. I have considered another Tesla as some very cheap offers currently. A 2 year old second hand Performance is only about £25k which is incredible value. This is also under consideration.

I've got a test drive in a A290 this weekend as something a bit different but other than that, it's a bit sparse out there for fun electric cars (I'm aware of the 5N, but too rich for me currently).
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The Ionic 5N is £577 x 18 with nothing down at the moment.

Seems like a steel to me.
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Carlos wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 2:05 pm The Ionic 5N is £577 x 18 with nothing down at the moment.

Seems like a steel to me.
Is that on a business lease? Does seem excellent value.
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V4B are quoting for both personal and business.

Terms are for 5000 miles pa but according to a few on PH who had them it's only 8p per mile excess.

They look great fun.
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Carlos wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 2:05 pm The Ionic 5N is £577 x 18 with nothing down at the moment.

Seems like a steel to me.
5k miles though, at 15k miles it's £745 per month. Ideally would like it longer than 18 months which makes it more expensive again.
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Whilst youngest is going to Uni and paying for her car, trying to keep payments under £500.
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Holley wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 2:39 pm
Carlos wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 2:05 pm The Ionic 5N is £577 x 18 with nothing down at the moment.

Seems like a steel to me.
5k miles though, at 15k miles it's £745 per month. Ideally would like it longer than 18 months which makes it more expensive again.
It's apparently 9p/mile including VAT excess mileage fee (need to verify that) but if so, that makes it £577 plus £75 a month, total £652. Obviously the excess being payable at the end of the lease. Nearly £100 a month cheaper than a 15k contract. Plus if you do fewer miles you won't be paying - I always say it's best to keep the miles low and always go over on a lease because you never get money back for doing fewer than the contracted miles.

I'd be more concerned about the range which is only quoted as 278 miles.
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Jobbo wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 2:49 pm
Holley wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 2:39 pm
Carlos wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 2:05 pm The Ionic 5N is £577 x 18 with nothing down at the moment.

Seems like a steel to me.
5k miles though, at 15k miles it's £745 per month. Ideally would like it longer than 18 months which makes it more expensive again.
It's apparently 9p/mile including VAT excess mileage fee (need to verify that) but if so, that makes it £577 plus £75 a month, total £652. Obviously the excess being payable at the end of the lease. Nearly £100 a month cheaper than a 15k contract. Plus if you do fewer miles you won't be paying - I always say it's best to keep the miles low and always go over on a lease because you never get money back for doing fewer than the contracted miles.

I'd be more concerned about the range which is only quoted as 278 miles.
Don't tempt me ffs :-)

Office is 11 miles from my house and might go wales a couple times a year. So anything over 200 miles is fine
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Have you looked at Polestar or Volvo?

They have some interesting lease offers on just now.

Yes, I realise how predictable it is to drop in after being quiet and recommend Volvo :lol:
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ZedLeg wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:28 pm Have you looked at Polestar or Volvo?

They have some interesting lease offers on just now.

Yes, I realise how predictable it is to drop in after being quiet and recommend Volvo :lol:
I was talking with my neighbour after he suggested Polestar. They are nice, but in direct comparison to Tesla they're slightly worse (much heavier, slightly slower, interface not as good). So I'd only be getting it just because it's not a Tesla (which in itself will be a high appeal for many!).

What I'd really like is an electric version of the current M240i as right size, coupe etc. But doesn't exist yet.
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I nearly described Polestar as Tesla with less baggage.
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Your Tesla is/was presumaly the pre-facelift version so there's at least an updated model if you went for the same thing again. But that has no stalks. Still, should be pretty cheap and the seats in the Performance model look comfy. Oh, and:

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 025-08-18/
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Holley wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:37 pm
ZedLeg wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:28 pm Have you looked at Polestar or Volvo?

They have some interesting lease offers on just now.

Yes, I realise how predictable it is to drop in after being quiet and recommend Volvo :lol:
I was talking with my neighbour after he suggested Polestar. They are nice, but in direct comparison to Tesla they're slightly worse (much heavier, slightly slower, interface not as good). So I'd only be getting it just because it's not a Tesla (which in itself will be a high appeal for many!).

What I'd really like is an electric version of the current M240i as right size, coupe etc. But doesn't exist yet.
Have you tried the current BMW EVs? The I4 isn’t the best looking thing but if it still “feels” like a BMW, it might be your answer.
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Holley wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:37 pm
ZedLeg wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:28 pm Have you looked at Polestar or Volvo?

They have some interesting lease offers on just now.

Yes, I realise how predictable it is to drop in after being quiet and recommend Volvo :lol:
I was talking with my neighbour after he suggested Polestar. They are nice, but in direct comparison to Tesla they're slightly worse (much heavier, slightly slower, interface not as good). So I'd only be getting it just because it's not a Tesla (which in itself will be a high appeal for many!).
I tried the polestar before buying my model 3 and found it disappointing. Heavy in feel and with no where near enough braking power to trust it (iirc they are over reliant on regenerative braking). The model 3 feels like an Elise in comparison.
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ZedLeg wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 4:12 pm
Holley wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:37 pm
ZedLeg wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:28 pm Have you looked at Polestar or Volvo?

They have some interesting lease offers on just now.

Yes, I realise how predictable it is to drop in after being quiet and recommend Volvo :lol:
I was talking with my neighbour after he suggested Polestar. They are nice, but in direct comparison to Tesla they're slightly worse (much heavier, slightly slower, interface not as good). So I'd only be getting it just because it's not a Tesla (which in itself will be a high appeal for many!).

What I'd really like is an electric version of the current M240i as right size, coupe etc. But doesn't exist yet.
Have you tried the current BMW EVs? The I4 isn’t the best looking thing but if it still “feels” like a BMW, it might be your answer.
i4 I would place similarly as Polestar, heavy, slower and more expensive. Likely will buy a used performance as depreciation on a new one is horrific. Or A290 could ignite the younger yob in me (I suspect it will feel too slow though).
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Jobbo wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 4:03 pm Your Tesla is/was presumaly the pre-facelift version so there's at least an updated model if you went for the same thing again. But that has no stalks. Still, should be pretty cheap and the seats in the Performance model look comfy. Oh, and:

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 025-08-18/
There are some amazing lease deals currently. But after leasing for 4 years now (first time I've leased) I would prefer to buy again (unless my accountant can convince me otherwise!)
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Explosive Newt wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 6:38 pm
Holley wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:37 pm
ZedLeg wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:28 pm Have you looked at Polestar or Volvo?

They have some interesting lease offers on just now.

Yes, I realise how predictable it is to drop in after being quiet and recommend Volvo :lol:
I was talking with my neighbour after he suggested Polestar. They are nice, but in direct comparison to Tesla they're slightly worse (much heavier, slightly slower, interface not as good). So I'd only be getting it just because it's not a Tesla (which in itself will be a high appeal for many!).
I tried the polestar before buying my model 3 and found it disappointing. Heavy in feel and with no where near enough braking power to trust it (iirc they are over reliant on regenerative braking). The model 3 feels like an Elise in comparison.
The Tesla is surprisingly good. But I don't admit it to my petrol head clients and friends. I find myself joining in with the Tesla bashing even though I quite like them.
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Holley wrote: Fri Aug 22, 2025 8:42 am
ZedLeg wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 4:12 pm
Holley wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:37 pm

I was talking with my neighbour after he suggested Polestar. They are nice, but in direct comparison to Tesla they're slightly worse (much heavier, slightly slower, interface not as good). So I'd only be getting it just because it's not a Tesla (which in itself will be a high appeal for many!).

What I'd really like is an electric version of the current M240i as right size, coupe etc. But doesn't exist yet.
Have you tried the current BMW EVs? The I4 isn’t the best looking thing but if it still “feels” like a BMW, it might be your answer.
i4 I would place similarly as Polestar, heavy, slower and more expensive. Likely will buy a used performance as depreciation on a new one is horrific. Or A290 could ignite the younger yob in me (I suspect it will feel too slow though).
A few of my mates have got Renault 5s on salary sacrifice leases. I’m looking forward to having a nose round one.
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ZedLeg wrote: Fri Aug 22, 2025 9:58 am
Holley wrote: Fri Aug 22, 2025 8:42 am
ZedLeg wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 4:12 pm

Have you tried the current BMW EVs? The I4 isn’t the best looking thing but if it still “feels” like a BMW, it might be your answer.
i4 I would place similarly as Polestar, heavy, slower and more expensive. Likely will buy a used performance as depreciation on a new one is horrific. Or A290 could ignite the younger yob in me (I suspect it will feel too slow though).
A few of my mates have got Renault 5s on salary sacrifice leases. I’m looking forward to having a nose round one.
In the opposite of all old Renault 5 models…..

It’s Bbigger than it seems from initially seeing them on the road.

The interior is really well and nicely designed.

They nailed it with the 5.

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V8Granite wrote: Fri Aug 22, 2025 11:47 am
ZedLeg wrote: Fri Aug 22, 2025 9:58 am
Holley wrote: Fri Aug 22, 2025 8:42 am

i4 I would place similarly as Polestar, heavy, slower and more expensive. Likely will buy a used performance as depreciation on a new one is horrific. Or A290 could ignite the younger yob in me (I suspect it will feel too slow though).
A few of my mates have got Renault 5s on salary sacrifice leases. I’m looking forward to having a nose round one.
In the opposite of all old Renault 5 models…..

It’s Bbigger than it seems from initially seeing them on the road.

The interior is really well and nicely designed.

They nailed it with the 5.

Dave!
I had a brief drive of a 180hp Alpine 2 weeks ago which looked the business outside and was very nice inside. Liked you can switch off Adas with one button. Felt a little slow though but we were 3 up (never understand why the sales guy has to come along). So hopefully the 220hp will feel better tomorrow (wife not coming this time so can have a proper go :-)
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