I feel a NIP in the air...

[Ascender]

I've always wondered why they're allowed to send NIPs out by a non-tracked and "guaranteed" mail service. I mean, I get that it would eat into their profits....

[Carlos]

In 2008 I had a nip which turned up 6 weeks after the offence. I tried explaining that I hadn't received it within 14 days but the Police weren't interested and ended up going to court 6+ months later as any offer had expired.

I was 1st in at 9 ish and explained that my initial correspondence was weeks after the offence and now months later I couldn't recall who would have even been driving!

The pricks put me in a waiting room with a load of tracksuit wearing scallies all day for the CPS to put a case together.

Called me back in at 4 to say they had no case as they couldn't evidence when it was posted other than the date on the letter which doesn't mean it left them then and that the copy of the photo was so poor you could barely identify the car never mind the driver.

I still remember the bloke in a white Kappa tracksuit on first name terms with the security guys there

[MikeHunt]

In 2008 I had a nip which turned up 6 weeks after the offence. I tried explaining that I hadn't received it within 14 days but the Police weren't interested and ended up going to court 6+ months later as any offer had expired.

I was 1st in at 9 ish and explained that my initial correspondence was weeks after the offence and now months later I couldn't recall who would have even been driving!

The pricks put me in a waiting room with a load of tracksuit wearing scallies all day for the CPS to put a case together.

Called me back in at 4 to say they had no case as they couldn't evidence when it was posted other than the date on the letter which doesn't mean it left them then and that the copy of the photo was so poor you could barely identify the car never mind the driver.

I still remember the bloke in a white Kappa tracksuit on first name terms with the security guys there

A relative had something similar in the last few years, nothing received for 6 months, not even a reminder, which led to him sitting in a room full of weekend brawlers like a naughty school boy.

The court said that the photo was a likeness, and so he had to choose to admitting speeding (perjury?) and they drop the not reporting offence or the prosecutor would push for both offences on the same day.

[GG.]

In 2008 I had a nip which turned up 6 weeks after the offence. I tried explaining that I hadn't received it within 14 days but the Police weren't interested and ended up going to court 6+ months later as any offer had expired.

I was 1st in at 9 ish and explained that my initial correspondence was weeks after the offence and now months later I couldn't recall who would have even been driving!

The pricks put me in a waiting room with a load of tracksuit wearing scallies all day for the CPS to put a case together.

Called me back in at 4 to say they had no case as they couldn't evidence when it was posted other than the date on the letter which doesn't mean it left them then and that the copy of the photo was so poor you could barely identify the car never mind the driver.

I still remember the bloke in a white Kappa tracksuit on first name terms with the security guys there

A relative had something similar in the last few years, nothing received for 6 months, not even a reminder, which led to him sitting in a room full of weekend brawlers like a naughty school boy.

The court said that the photo was a likeness, and so he had to choose to admitting speeding (perjury?) and they drop the not reporting offence or the prosecutor would push for both offences on the same day.

Its all deeply unsatisfactory from an administration of justice perspective.

Interestingly the 28 days is from receipt of the form asking for details - the Met's own website has a seemingly incorrect reference to it being 28 days from the date of the form.

If the NIP and 172 notice arrives a month late then you are going to have to substantiate the delay in receipt otherwise you'll be falling foul of a separate offence.

[Carlos]

Its a process that's stacked in their favour given these things aren't sent by any recorded method.

For Joe Bloggs its just easier to accept a SAC for a minor offence rather than lose the option by questioning the validity of the process!

[jamcg]

New fixed camera in North Yorkshire, the thing looks tiny

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg ... kOrBGXHg-Q

[Gavster]

Mildly related but I received three PCNs in the post today and found another two online when I logged in after a mild heart attack thinking it was user error on my part, it appears my recent reg transfer didn't update with the TFL charging system, so I get a PCN every time I move my car more than a few hundred metres

[mik]

New fixed camera in North Yorkshire, the thing looks tiny

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg ... kOrBGXHg-Q

That does look small. Can't believe they've never had a Gatso though?

I quite like leaving Waze on-screen, even when I am not using it to navigate somewhere - often very useful to get alerts (particularly for the mobile cams....)

[Matty]

Aaaaand it's gone:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0j445g5qw7o

[Simon]

[Explosive Newt]

Aaaaand it's gone:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0j445g5qw7o

Amazing what can spontaneously fall over in the right circumstances...

[Beany]

I mean, don't get me wrong that is funny, but Sherburn is a nasty fucking spot for people speeding - and for people not slowing down from """60"""mph then having the lights in the village change on them. And you have, so you've stopped. And they're emergency braking right up your arse

Even though there's a 40 zone preceding it (and checking on Google Maps, it looks like they extended it since I've left the area) - they just ignored it.

I got overtaken by people doing warp speed in the 40/30 plenty of times when I used to travel through there on the regular.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/eR7GWkVy5xZg2L6C7

[Jimmy Choo]

Aaaaand it's gone:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0j445g5qw7o

Amazing what can spontaneously fall over in the right circumstances...

There used to be a speed camera on the A38 outside Gloucester. One day it suddenly vanished.

Coincidentally, a local farmer had been flashed by it the night before.

Also coincidentally, the farmer had access to a JCB and lots of land where he was considering growing speed cameras.