FTAO anyone that ever posts videos of their driving

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On the assumption that you’ve moved on from the “milking cows” steering technique you were taught to pass your test, please ensure you apply rotational steering in the CORRECT manner to avoid me mumbling/grumping/screaming at my screen (depending on the level of hand shuffling that occurs during mashing and sawing).

HarryM often elicits a mumble.

Hands should always be at quarter-to-three when both are on the wheel. It works perfectly. <chef’s kiss>

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<grabs wheel with right hand from underneath at 10 o-clock>

<explodes>
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But awkward having both hands at a quarter to 3. Are you placing your hands on top of each other?
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You only place your hands on top of each other if you have 3 hands. Do you have 3 hands David?
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This is only required in a facelifted Tesla Model S or Kitt.
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mik wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 11:53 am You only place your hands on top of each other if you have 3 hands. Do you have 3 hands David?
How would I place 2 hands at 2:45?

I would place one hand at 2:45 and the other at 9:15 if the wheel were analogous to a clock.
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Meh.
Jobbo wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:28 pm Having been for a rotation in the Yangwang, the Yangwang didn't wobble around afterwards and was actually quite comfortable to ride in.
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Mito Man wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:34 pm
mik wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 11:53 am You only place your hands on top of each other if you have 3 hands. Do you have 3 hands David?
How would I place 2 hands at 2:45?

I would place one hand at 2:45 and the other at 9:15 if the wheel were analogous to a clock.
Drivers and CGs often talk to having their hands positioned at quarter to three, or ten to two. Like the hands on a clock face. This requires one hand to replicate the location of the hour hand, and another to replicate the location of the minute hand. The video provides an excellent visual aid for this.

Please show me how you place your singular hand at 2:45, and how that hand position might be adjusted for - let’s say - 4:45? :)
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mik wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:47 pm
Mito Man wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:34 pm
mik wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 11:53 am You only place your hands on top of each other if you have 3 hands. Do you have 3 hands David?
How would I place 2 hands at 2:45?

I would place one hand at 2:45 and the other at 9:15 if the wheel were analogous to a clock.
Drivers and CGs often talk to having their hands positioned at quarter to three, or ten to two. Like the hands on a clock face. This requires one hand to replicate the location of the hour hand, and another to replicate the location of the minute hand. The video provides an excellent visual aid for this.
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2:45 can be represented with the hour hand alone. But this is advanced watch reading technique and if I had to explain it I would have to kill you afterwards.
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Everyone knows the correct method is to let go completely.

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dan wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 1:15 pm Everyone knows the correct method is to let go completely.

I tend to do a mixture of both. In a proper code brown moment i don't even think about it - it just as quick as I can get the lock on. See below (10m:07) when I hit oil on the circuit. Other footage I've got from the S1 when doing deliberate skids at the hairpin i let the wheel rotate itself.

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Rich B wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:50 pm
mik wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:47 pm
Mito Man wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:34 pm

How would I place 2 hands at 2:45?

I would place one hand at 2:45 and the other at 9:15 if the wheel were analogous to a clock.
Drivers and CGs often talk to having their hands positioned at quarter to three, or ten to two. Like the hands on a clock face. This requires one hand to replicate the location of the hour hand, and another to replicate the location of the minute hand. The video provides an excellent visual aid for this.
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Jobbo wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:28 pm Having been for a rotation in the Yangwang, the Yangwang didn't wobble around afterwards and was actually quite comfortable to ride in.
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Different, but related whinge, as I just saw a link to this vid, and I was grinding my teeth. :roll:

People who sit too far from the wheel.

Hammond should know better.

Around 4mins 10secs you see how he has to completely open his grip and use fingertips only to allow his hand to pass over the top and (barely) retain contact with the rim. The walloper. :evil:

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I was always told there should be a very slight bend in the elbow with the hands at the top of the wheel.

Which is how I drive, cause it's the coolest innit. Other hand free to scratch, tickle, drink, vape.
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Your lollipop is in the post Matty. Standard position check is that you should be able to rest both wrists on top of the wheel rim without pulling your shoulders off the seat back.
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If we're doing distance from the wheel, can we do seat height as well ? Too often I see people driving that can barely see over the steering wheel.
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Yes we can - seat height is step 1 on the list.
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#please don’t get onto inappropriate headwear….# 🤞🏻🤞🏻
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