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dinny_g wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:29 am I would want to the the hell away from a plan that's missing a wing, rather than film for content...
Imagine being 2 or 3 behind them in a queue trying to get out, and they are busy filming. :? Next bloke that comes out appears to have brought his luggage.
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Hey @IanF - question for you sir.

Runway numbering.

How come some airports (Like Washington DC, or - easier to see Reykjavik appear to use magnetic North :?: (ie Runway 01 / 19 is definitely not running at 10/190 Degrees from grid North) whereas other airports like Heathrow do appear to use grid North (ie runway(s) 09 and 27 appear to be bang-on 90/270 Degrees in relation to grid North).

And if - as I suspect - they are using different methodologies - how do pilots know (other than simply looking as part of their pre-flight briefings obviously) ?
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There's a good clip, from the cockpit of a waiting plane on X (which I can link) which makes it look like the right undercarriage collapses on touchdown. Right engine hits ground and explodes etc.
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There are three Norths - grid (on a map isn’t used much, but we do get it given by our navaids at high latitudes), magnetic (towards magnetic North Pole - which is constantly moving, used currently but there is a movement to move to true everywhere - started by the Canadians (for obvious reasons) in the 1990’s and expected to happen 2030+), and true (towards the geographic North Pole - utilised near the magnetic pole and across large areas without points of reference eg the Atlantic). Runways are all in magnetic; think LHR is currently 093/273
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To my uninformed eyes that looks like a pretty normal landing…

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:shock: Yeah wtf. Did the right hand landing gear just collapse?
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Looks that way, doesn't it...
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It does - but it looks like a pretty heavy landing (and the right gear is the first to make contact with the strip).
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If you go on instagram to view that post, click on the 3 dots, then sequence, you can scroll through the video easily with your thumb, and to me it looks like the landing gear just gives way, there’s no rebound to it- as soon as it touches with the wheel it keeps going and slams into the tarmac
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jamcg wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:10 pm If you go on instagram to view that post, click on the 3 dots, then sequence, you can scroll through the video easily with your thumb, and to me it looks like the landing gear just gives way, there’s no rebound to it- as soon as it touches with the wheel it keeps going and slams into the tarmac
Agree, but to me it looks like a crazy high rate of descent :?: Compare it to this CRJ900LR landing :

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mik wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:41 pm
jamcg wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:10 pm If you go on instagram to view that post, click on the 3 dots, then sequence, you can scroll through the video easily with your thumb, and to me it looks like the landing gear just gives way, there’s no rebound to it- as soon as it touches with the wheel it keeps going and slams into the tarmac
Agree, but to me it looks like a crazy high rate of descent :?: Compare it to this CRJ900LR landing :

Aye, it’s definitely more slam down than touchdown
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Yeah, I’ve looked at it again a few times and the front wheel seems to hit the ground at almost the same time as back
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My pilot friend who flies commercial jets, is baffled by how it ended up like it did. But, positive nobody lost their lives.
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Excellent Blancolirio (very early) analysis as always

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Don’t be in a rush to fly to America

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If only they had a decent number of air traffic controllers to avoid that sort of situation...
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Simon wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 10:42 pm If only they had a decent number of air traffic controllers to avoid that sort of situation...
Apparently it's not just that - a few pilots on PH have posted about the generally accepted operations of ATC in the US that simply wouldn't be allowed anywhere else. Several with tales exactly like as happened in that vid.

Would be interesting to get Ian's perspective on it though
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