930 Tag Turbo non fence-sitting Poll

[mik]

Already posted elsewhere by other members, but In case you need a reference:



I can absolutely see the appeal of the Tag. Quite a lot. But for driving - the Ruf is way more attractive to me.

And the Tag sounds great - as many V6’s do - but it doesn’t sound like a flat6 even if Henry says it does.

[mik]

Note: for the poll to work we have to imagine that these 10 (11?) cars will be driven as opposed to just stuck in a collection.

[Jobbo]

I don't like the idea of taking the flat 6 out - if you have about a dozen ex-F1 engines, why not use them in something else? Maybe a 1980s F1 car which doesn't have an engine; plenty of those around.

[V8Granite]

As there can’t be many ways to daily drive an actual F1 engine, I say the Tag out of those 2.

For any other 911 then the Tuthill is my current favourite.

Dave!

[ZedLeg]

I’ve been thinking about it more and since it’s a restomod I want one with an RWB kit to really annoy people

[RobYob]

I think it's ace although had I that level of cash I'd probably want a few extra new reengineered engines as well to go for that 1000hp quality power level.

But the plaque listing where each original engine raced is CAF.

[RobYob]

I’ve been thinking about it more and since it’s a restomod I want one with an RWB kit to really annoy people

Might as well do a boosted K20 swap into the bargain.

Mclaren-Honda-Porsche.

[Barry]

If I had the money to choose, it'd be an n/a Ruf personally, but from those two the CTR gets my vote.

[nuttinnew]

I'm waiting until I know more (the info might already be out there, I haven't looked), e.g. how much of the original F1 engine is actually used? I don't dislike it, but it isn't the mule. If only Henry could drive that to let us know how they compare

[mik]

it isn't the mule. If only Henry could drive that

[Beany]

Even if it's the whole engine and they've just dialled back the fuelling and boost at the top end, and made it more tractable at the bottom end, it's still not really the "same" engine - it has a totally different character.

It's like the difference between a supermodel in the 1980s, and then that same supermodel in the 2020s in long after the alcoholism and coke bloat has set in - but likely still just as highly strung and troublesome (dialling back the fuelling and boost on an F1 engine isn't going to magically make it go 20,000 miles between rebuilds).

It also sounds pretty shit because it has a silenced exhaust and is limited to 9k rpm. That supermodels has a smokers cough.

Ruf for me please, that's a car you literally can drive regularly without thinking about the £40k interim service it'll need to stop it from lunching itself.

[ZedLeg]

It’s an 80’s 911 with an F1 engine. Why are you talking
About the practicalities?

[dan]

Even if it's the whole engine and they've just dialled back the fuelling and boost at the top end, and made it more tractable at the bottom end, it's still not really the "same" engine - it has a totally different character.

It will be so far from the original F1 engine as to be almost unrecognisable, the only common parts will be the block head and rocker cover castings. Turning a race engine into a road car engine isn't a case of turning down the boost a bit despite what the PR would have you believe.

[duncs500]

It's cool. So is the RUF. I know the poll is about the TAG, but FWIW I'd take the RUF out of those two... and of course the 911K above both. I think I'd rate the RUF (and maybe the TAG) above a Singer though.

Where's the poll for best 911 restomod? Not that it's needed, the 911K wins.

[Jobbo]

Even if it's the whole engine and they've just dialled back the fuelling and boost at the top end, and made it more tractable at the bottom end, it's still not really the "same" engine - it has a totally different character.

It will be so far from the original F1 engine as to be almost unrecognisable, the only common parts will be the block head and rocker cover castings. Turning a race engine into a road car engine isn't a case of turning down the boost a bit despite what the PR would have you believe.

I did think it seemed surprisingly driveable for a 1980s 1.5l V6 with massive boost.

[ZedLeg]

You’d buy one because it’s a cool thing to have, which is why I wouldn’t feel bad having one with a tacky widebody kit