Bye bye Starmer

[ZedLeg]

Mental health issues and underachievement for all

[Beany]

Mental health issues and underachievement for all

Already ahead of the game there

[Broccers]

No view on Louise convicted fraudster? Rachel next? Apparently lying isn't allowed.

[Rich B]

Again, if that’s the worst they can dredge up, i’m fairly satisfied that they’re a pretty clean bunch ( i didn’t vote labour by the way.)

so far they’ve got Starmer legally declaring his gifts, Rayner getting her taxes wrong on a council house years ago and this one accidentally reporting a phone missing after a mugging.

Its pretty fucking lame to even compare these typical life admin mistakes to the brazen massive multi million pound scams that we saw within the conservatives.

They’ve clearly saved this one to try and deflect from Badenoch admitting that the Tories aren’t fit to run a bath.

[Gavster]

She did something a bit odd a decade ago, in her twenties, and has now taken responsibility and resigned from her ministerial post. It's absolutely meaningless mudslinging and also, I hate how nobody in politics is allowed to have any hint of a real life. So many people have got into scrapes or dodgy situations when they were younger, they're often people with more real life experience. Meanwhile tories fuck pigs and handed out something like £1bn of our money to their pals during Covid and nobody took any responsibility.

[dan]

Meanwhile tories fuck pigs and handed out something like £1bn of our money to their pals during Covid and nobody took any responsibility.

This baffles me. People (that have absolutely fuck all to do with farms for example) are absolutely apoplectic about issues that will never affect them but can't be bothered to say or do a thing about stuff that actually did because it was 'their' party. Those fuckers should be in jail. Johnson should be having the shit bummed out of him as we speak.

Still, empty vessels make the most noise as they say.

[duncs500]

I must be getting old because the bar for a media story and apparent public outrage seems pretty low these days. I can't believe she had to step down for that, it's also disappointing that KS didn't circle the wagons and weather the storm with something so minor. Usually when the wagons aren't circled it means there's a bigger story under wraps, but I'm not sure that's the case here. According to the BBC article she declared it to the party a long time ago.

The funny thing is, all the Conservative supporters will jump on the bandwagon which I think is sad because people really seem to have lost objectivity in general. I didn't vote for Labour and am not politically aligned to them, if they do something I don't like I'll call them out, but if they do something I agree with I'll commend them. Can't we go back to judging individual actions rather than just "Oh I'm a Conservative, literally everything Labour does is shit."?

Take immigration, the Tories love to say they're the party that's tough on immigration, but the evidence far from supports that.

I also in general think that it's never good for any one party to be in power for too long despite my political leanings. Fresh ideas are occasionally needed, you'd like to think that the next party in retains the ones that worked and tinkers with the ones that didn't.

Anyway, I'm not going to change the way people think so In just going to have to be a grumpy old git and hopefully teach my daughter that the name of a political party is an imaginary construct and it's the actions they take and policies they make which really affect our lives and how we should vote.

[dinny_g]

I must be getting old because the bar for a media story and apparent public outrage seems pretty low these days. I can't believe she had to step down for that, it's also disappointing that KS didn't circle the wagons and weather the storm with something so minor.

I don't think Starmer has a choice - he has to distance the Party from the shady practices of the Tories.

[Mito Man]

She may have had support from Starmer were it not for her moronic comment on boycotting P&O at a time when the country desperately needed investment from them.
At that point she was a liability.

[Swervin_Mervin]

I must be getting old because the bar for a media story and apparent public outrage seems pretty low these days. I can't believe she had to step down for that, it's also disappointing that KS didn't circle the wagons and weather the storm with something so minor. Usually when the wagons aren't circled it means there's a bigger story under wraps, but I'm not sure that's the case here. According to the BBC article she declared it to the party a long time ago.

This, so very much. Total non-story. Far less of a story than Reeves openly lying on her CV to make out like she's some vastly experienced economist and therefore perfectly suited to planning and managing the country's economic policy.

The cynic in me suspects that Haigh was an easy sacrificial lamb. The Transport Secretary role is a revolving door and has been for years. This way he gets to look as though he has some level of authority. If anything, the reaction of the Party speaks volumes and I have even less respect for them after this debacle - they should absolutely have backed her up and told everyone to STFU.

[Beany]

I must be getting old because the bar for a media story and apparent public outrage seems pretty low these days. I can't believe she had to step down for that, it's also disappointing that KS didn't circle the wagons and weather the storm with something so minor. Usually when the wagons aren't circled it means there's a bigger story under wraps, but I'm not sure that's the case here. According to the BBC article she declared it to the party a long time ago.

This, so very much. Total non-story. Far less of a story than Reeves openly lying on her CV to make out like she's some vastly experienced economist and therefore perfectly suited to planning and managing the country's economic policy.

The cynic in me suspects that Haigh was an easy sacrificial lamb. The Transport Secretary role is a revolving door and has been for years. This way he gets to look as though he has some level of authority. If anything, the reaction of the Party speaks volumes and I have even less respect for them after this debacle - they should absolutely have backed her up and told everyone to STFU.

They should have laughed it off. "Someone flubbed a police report and got bad legal advice at the time, and you think this is something worth binning them for? Fucking hell, is that the best you've got to deflect from the fact your party is still full of lunatics and racists? That's genuinely pathetic."

I'm more and more of the opinion that public mockery is a better solution than taking this current breed of """""politics""""" seriously, along with their supporters.

[IanF]

Guessing no one read the Sky article? It states from multiple sources that she then lied to her employer, Aviva, was found out and sacked over it. But sure, she got home and realised it was sat on her desk..

Starmer has stated lawmakers aren’t lawbreakers, plus the P&O thing and her closeness to Susan Gray; her days were numbered. I like authoritarian Starmer, he’s robotic in his beliefs, which is better than the flip-flopping gov we had previously. If this makes politicians better behaved in the future, then it was a sacrifice worth making imo.

[Rich B]

Even if all that is true, it’s still less than a typical week of Boris’s government.

She declared it, she’s still quit anyway, let’s get back to the important stuff.

[IanF]

Even if all that is true, it’s still less than a typical week of Boris’s government.

She declared it, she’s still quit anyway, let’s get back to the important stuff.

Yeah, probably voting against Starmer on the assisted dying vote, and he’s just clearing house!

[Mito Man]

Just seen the MP behind the bill is called Kim Leadbeater
I’ll walk my immature self out now.

[ZedLeg]

Guessing no one read the Sky article? It states from multiple sources that she then lied to her employer, Aviva, was found out and sacked over it. But sure, she got home and realised it was sat on her desk..

Starmer has stated lawmakers aren’t lawbreakers, plus the P&O thing and her closeness to Susan Gray; her days were numbered. I like authoritarian Starmer, he’s robotic in his beliefs, which is better than the flip-flopping gov we had previously. If this makes politicians better behaved in the future, then it was a sacrifice worth making imo.

I think she was right about P&O tbh. The government shouldn’t be cosying up to companies that are pulling fire and rehire bullshit.

[Mito Man]

If you want to pull shit like that you really ought to be an independent. If was directly going against the government’s wish.

[V8Granite]

Guessing no one read the Sky article? It states from multiple sources that she then lied to her employer, Aviva, was found out and sacked over it. But sure, she got home and realised it was sat on her desk..

Starmer has stated lawmakers aren’t lawbreakers, plus the P&O thing and her closeness to Susan Gray; her days were numbered. I like authoritarian Starmer, he’s robotic in his beliefs, which is better than the flip-flopping gov we had previously. If this makes politicians better behaved in the future, then it was a sacrifice worth making imo.

I think she was right about P&O tbh. The government shouldn’t be cosying up to companies that are pulling fire and rehire bullshit.

We won’t ever go on a P&O ferry again after that. There is no way a new crew would be able to quickly recover from a black start (engines off, no power) with just a few hours on board before sailing.

Dave!

[MikeHunt]

I read it was damaging for the cruise company who share a similar name, which is sad.

[ZedLeg]

If you want to pull shit like that you really ought to be an independent. If was directly going against the government’s wish.

Why? it’s not against the rules to have an opinion.