£10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease

[GG.]

Isn't the correct answer here a BMW 5 / Audi A6 or Mercedes E Estate?

I am now allergic to modern-ish BMWs after the last two I owned were the most comprehensively unreliable cars I have ever owned. Utterly horrendous. One of them racked up 40 hours of workshop time at a BMW main dealer for a single problem - thank god for the warranty.

Yes I guess my most recent experience is e90 generation. Mercedes also don't have a great rep. Maybe A6 Avant then?

[Sundayjumper]

564.9mpg

(the Prius)

[simon_g]

Yeah, newer longer range PHEVs absolutely break the European mpg tests.

US does tests in pure hybrid mode, EPA 52mpg combined = 62mpg UK.

[jamcg]

If performance isn’t a priority have you considered a scala? Possibly the most boring car available on the market at the moment, drives great around town, not the most dynamic out of town but not terrible

It’s one of those cars that basically does everything “alright” nothing great, nothing terrible

When I had one I used to get 40mpg easy around town and over 50 on a run. Never put a foot wrong and the se has enough toys, the sel even more so

https://leasing.com/independent-brokers ... 0004072810

[Mito Man]

I wouldn't touch anything from Toyota with a CVT, absolutely awful.

[Swervin_Mervin]

There you go

Can't promise it won't handle like a pudding, but it would be economical, be able to accommodate a large fridge, and just generally be one of the most practical cars you could own.

[IanF]

Maybe get a convertible? No problem with fridge then! Also, van hire is £13ph from your nearby B&Q, Costco etc

[mik]

<ring ring>

Hello. Is that Gavsters Large Fridge Delivery Services London-New York-Paris?

[Sundayjumper]

Economical & reliable are overrated. I recommend a Discovery 4

You appear to be enjoying this purchase, despite the work it needed. A keeper?

Enjoying it at the moment yes. Still in the honeymoon period. The work I've done so far has all been useful and made a difference. If it starts giving me stupid problems that can't be solved then my opinion & patience will change quite quickly

[Delphi]

I was considering outright buying a 2014-2015 Cayenne as a family bus to replace the XC40 when it goes back in April. I'd discounted leasing another as prices have shot up. Currently paying £360 pcm for the XC40 and the equivalent lease now for this is well north of £500. The wife's managed to get a deal on a Skoda Kodiak 2.0d for essentially the same as we're paying for the Volvo. Probably not the same interior quality as the Volvo but all the usual toys plus wireless CarPlay/Android Auto (which the Volvo lacks) mean it's not going to be unbearable as a daily proposition.

[16vCento]

https://www.leaseloco.com/car-leasing/v ... /grandland

This seems cheap for what spec you get, I had a Corsa Ultimate as a hire car when my Kuga went in for some work and it wasn't bad, the adaptive cruise was good, will do full stop/start in traffic etcs by itself

The 1.2 isn't bad on fuel and pretty quiet on a motorway as well, plenty of space inside these Grandlands too.

[Gavster]

https://www.leaseloco.com/car-leasing/v ... /grandland

This seems cheap for what spec you get, I had a Corsa Ultimate as a hire car when my Kuga went in for some work and it wasn't bad, the adaptive cruise was good, will do full stop/start in traffic etcs by itself

The 1.2 isn't bad on fuel and pretty quiet on a motorway as well, plenty of space inside these Grandlands too.

Yeah that's crazy cheap, I've always had a peculiar soft spot for Vauxhalss too. Seems like a lot of car for not much money, that's very, very tempting. Gonna have a quick chat with the lease co.

[Rich B]

I still
have an irrational hatred for Vauxhall - plus i don’t know why they called that one such a shit name - though it is the sort of car a very old grandad would have.

[Gavster]

Excess mileage is 19p/mile which feels steep, it's only about 12p/mile when added onto the contract miles.

[GG.]

have an irrational hatred for Vauxhall - plus i don’t know why they called that one such a shit name - though it is the sort of car a very old grandad would have.

It's one of those brands that seems to have a very high correlation with their stereotypical drivers - basically - chavs.

I think with the reincarnation of Skoda (as the car for middle class people who don't want to be seen as middle class enough to have a VW ) there is really very little market share for Vauxhall. Personally I'd be worried if I bought one that I'd accidently have an STD, an illegitimate child and a glue sniffing habit by the next month.

Interestingly the neighbour son that lives opposite (arrested by the police and clearly a dealer, kids by a woman he doesn't live with, lived a home for a period presumably after release for the nick) had an old Vectra saloon and has then moved into a diesel CLA estate type thing made to look like an AMG. Not sure that's the market Merc want to attract...

[Rich B]

i don’t associate Vauxhall with chavs, more people who don’t know or care about cars whatsoever. Though most have moved onto Nissan Qashqais in the last 10 years.

[GG.]

I should add before I make a mortal enemy of Mik that I don't consider a Monaro to be a Vauxhall but a Holden.

[mik]

I should add before I make a mortal enemy of Mik that I don't consider a Monaro to be a Vauxhall but a Holden.

And you'd be correct - although I don't care about them as they are piloted only by bogans.

VXR8's are HSV's. I couldn't correct the badges fast enough.

[Jimexpl]

https://www.leaseloco.com/car-leasing/v ... /grandland

This seems cheap for what spec you get, I had a Corsa Ultimate as a hire car when my Kuga went in for some work and it wasn't bad, the adaptive cruise was good, will do full stop/start in traffic etcs by itself

The 1.2 isn't bad on fuel and pretty quiet on a motorway as well, plenty of space inside these Grandlands too.

Yeah that's crazy cheap, I've always had a peculiar soft spot for Vauxhalss too. Seems like a lot of car for not much money, that's very, very tempting. Gonna have a quick chat with the lease co.

This just shows how good PCP deals were on some cars in 2017-19.
My M140i was £1800 down and £348pm, 9,000mpa, factory ordered to my spec with £2500 of options. I ran it for 2 1/2 years and had £2400 equity when I sold it.

[Swervin_Mervin]

I still
have an irrational hatred for Vauxhall - plus i don’t know why they called that one such a shit name - though it is the sort of car a very old grandad would have.

It's not irrational. They're shit. They were always shit and then they, somewhat amazingly, got even more shit when Stellantis came into being.

And that Corsa makes the Superb I linked look like daylight robbery