Overdue service / New Car

[GG.]

Shows why you shouldn’t be a cheapskate and buy a knackered one for 8k.

If he’d spent 17 on a lovely one he’d be in for the same money as he is now with one nice working car rather than two wrecks and a headache. By the time he’s paid for a mechanic to do an engine swap he’ll be deep in a hole that he’ll realistically never dig himself out of by becoming a parts dealer on the side.

The advice should generally be - if you can only afford a a dog - don’t bother / there is no such thing as a cheap Porsche / literally a case of buy cheap buy twice

[Mito Man]

Is he doing the swap himself or giving it to a mechanic (that's crazy surely).

On the other hand if you keep extrapolating this you'll soon be like Tavarish and his P1

[DeskJockey]

Shows why you shouldn’t be a cheapskate and buy a knackered one for 8k.

If he’d spent 17 on a lovely one he’d be in for the same money as he is now with one nice working car rather than two wrecks and a headache. By the time he’s paid for a mechanic to do an engine swap he’ll be deep in a hole that he’ll realistically never dig himself out of by becoming a parts dealer on the side.

The advice should generally be - if you can only afford a a dog - don’t bother / there is no such thing as a cheap Porsche / literally a case of buy cheap buy twice

I don't think he'd expected to win it when he bought it, but bid 8008.13 (I think) and lady luck smiled upon him (or not, depending on your point of view).

[IanF]

Has he moved house as well?? Doing all that work on two dead cars on a small-ish driveway doesn’t sound much fun!

[Jobbo]

He’s had the first one for a couple of years at least - I think he’s got his money’s worth from it.

ETA: checking back on FaceyB, he bought it in mid-2019 so 4 years ago. And it had a bit of engine work in his ownership that year.

[integrale_evo]

Yep, was a pretty harsh statement.

Spending more than twice as much also wouldn’t guarantee a totally rust free car and a promise that you won’t get any big bills.

[Rich B]

The silver one's paintwork was hilarious - 50 shades of silver (at least). Are all the crappy bodywork repairs hidden by all those different spray jobs coming to the surface now?

[IanF]

He’s had the first one for a couple of years at least - I think he’s got his money’s worth from it.

ETA: checking back on FaceyB, he bought it in mid-2019 so 4 years ago. And it had a bit of engine work in his ownership that year.

Exactly! It would be better to scrap car #1 now having got his monies worth than buy another shed car and try to get one good one from both.

[V8Granite]

Yep, was a pretty harsh statement.

Spending more than twice as much also wouldn’t guarantee a totally rust free car and a promise that you won’t get any big bills.

This times a million.

I’ve seen some very shiny cars with a lovely service history that have driven the same salty roads as everything else. Also the prices for 911s has gone silly in the last 3 years so what was a 10k car in 2020 is now closer to 20k now, same car same problems.

Dave!

[ZedLeg]

He’s had the first one for a couple of years at least - I think he’s got his money’s worth from it.

ETA: checking back on FaceyB, he bought it in mid-2019 so 4 years ago. And it had a bit of engine work in his ownership that year.

Exactly! It would be better to scrap car #1 now having got his monies worth than buy another shed car and try to get one good one from both.

Nah, a big part of cars as a hobby is exactly that kind of project.

If everyone just scrapped old cars that needed a lot of work we’d have far less interesting classics around.

I don’t really know Rev so don’t know what he’s been up to since he dropped the forum but some of the comments have been a bit weird.

[Rich B]

He’s had the first one for a couple of years at least - I think he’s got his money’s worth from it.

ETA: checking back on FaceyB, he bought it in mid-2019 so 4 years ago. And it had a bit of engine work in his ownership that year.

I had a peep back at the old thread, it needed £3200 spent straight away because it had cracked heads.

[Gavin]

He’s had the first one for a couple of years at least - I think he’s got his money’s worth from it.

ETA: checking back on FaceyB, he bought it in mid-2019 so 4 years ago. And it had a bit of engine work in his ownership that year.

Exactly! It would be better to scrap car #1 now having got his monies worth than buy another shed car and try to get one good one from both.

Nah, a big part of cars as a hobby is exactly that kind of project.

If everyone just scrapped old cars that needed a lot of work we’d have far less interesting classics around.

I don’t really know Rev so don’t know what he’s been up to since he dropped the forum but some of the comments have been a bit weird.

This, cannot say the "only buy if you have plenty case" view chimes with me.

He did just get another 996 in fetching met blue and the plan is to make one good car. I wish him luck, I suspect it will be a dog of a job.

[Jobbo]

Yep, was a pretty harsh statement.

Spending more than twice as much also wouldn’t guarantee a totally rust free car and a promise that you won’t get any big bills.

Based on used prices going up, spending twice as much would get him a 50-shades of silver 996 with cracked heads in 2023. So maybe he’s actually done ok

[Mito Man]

The correct course of action would have been to part out the original 996. Take the non crusty 996 and LS swap it. Sell on Collecting cars for £80,000. Buy 996 GT3.

[Carlos]

I hope he enjoys the process and gets the car he wants.

The car scene would be boring if we all wanted or could afford the very best examples!

[GG.]

The very best would have been more than the £17k I mentioned - which would have bought a decent example with say a £2,500 contingency fund and a PPI for a couple of hundred quid.

My point is that he bought a 'cheap' Porsche for £8,000, immediately rounded that up to £12,500 for a fixed one (so immediately it was a gamble that didn't pay off) and has ended up a couple of years later with something that has such bad rust it is essentially a parts car. He's now bought another and surely cannot come out of that series of questionable decisions with one working car (non matching numbers to the extent that even makes a difference at this level) for less than £20,000.

The aforementioned nice example with low mileage and the car would not be worth north of £20k comfortably. He'll now be in for £20,000 with a car that will be worth substantially less than that (£12k maybe), in Zenith (purple blue) which is perhaps the least desirable 996 colour.

Everyone pays their money and takes their choice but its just a good example that scraping the barrel nearly always costs you more not less (unless you're Hoovie and make Yootube revenue on the side).

[Rich B]

The very best would have been more than the £17k I mentioned - which would have bought a decent example with say a £2,500 contingency fund and a PPI for a couple of hundred quid.

My point is that he bought a 'cheap' Porsche for £8,000, immediately rounded that up to £12,500 for a fixed one (so immediately it was a gamble that didn't pay off) and has ended up a couple of years later with something that has such bad rust it is essentially a parts car. He's now bought another and surely cannot come out of that series of questionable decisions with one working car (non matching numbers to the extent that even makes a difference at this level) for less than £20,000.

The aforementioned nice example with low mileage and the car would not be worth north of £20k comfortably. He'll now be in for £20,000 with a car that will be worth substantially less than that (£12k maybe), in Zenith (purple blue) which is perhaps the least desirable 996 colour.

Everyone pays their money and takes their choice but its just a good example that scraping the barrel nearly always costs you more not less (unless you're Hoovie and make Yootube revenue on the side).

I'm with you on this one. Buying one car with a broken engine and crappy bodywork and letting it die should have been the warning that you haven't got the talent of Harry or Sunday jumper.

[nuttinnew]

@GG. @Rich B Did something occur 'tween REV and thee bitd? I know the stock answer is "didn't it with everyone?" but I can't remember

[GG.]

No not really - i don’t have any particular animosity to Rev. I think SJ and him had a falling out.

Maybe my comments came across as harsh - but I really only meant that these gambles rarely pay off.

The ‘cheapskate’ comment was tongue in cheek but was just aimed at the fact that he’s had enough in reserve to have a play around with an (also knackered) early 90s Camero and the Macan etc so it clearly wasn’t outside his means to have paid more and got something nicer.

[Jobbo]

Zenith is way nicer than silver, particularly silver which has been repainted in many slightly different ways