i worked late today so had clear roads on the way home - I was being a little bit of a dick and gave it a boot full of loud pedal off a roundabout joining a dual carriageway. In the summer it would have done a little squirm, maybe needed a few degrees of steering input to keep it there then fire me straight down the road. Tonight it basically tried to put me under the artic lorry I was next to - snappy!! Looking forward to swapping them out. Still fun though!mik wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:27 pmThat’s probably true. It will fell like a new car on MPS4S. I am repeating myself, but they have all the warm weather capability of MPSS with massively increased capability in cooler conditions. I had at least 3x very near big offs in the Evora with MPSS in the cold.
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I’d keep the black, it’s a nice contrast.
Those rear arches!
Those rear arches!
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Looks great with the black roof imho. I’d go with the gesture and getting them to paint it would be the last thing I’d do, as I find it hard to believe it would be as good a finish as the original paint.
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Those arches.

I don't mind the black roof, given the choice I probably wouldn't have optioned it, but now it's there on that colour combo it looks fine. Getting it painted sounds too risky.
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Would they countenance wrapping the roof and spoiler if they could get a match? I think it looks OK TBH and teh car as a whole looks absolutely stunning! Even if EFCOTTY has an estate section I am lagging this year! 

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I don’t mind the black, it matches the window surrounds and the diffuser so it’s not stuck out there as the only black detail
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Not that it matters - as it isn’t my car - but so am with everyone else on the black roof. Looks good.
Great opportunity to get a gesture from them though for the error - couple of free services or wotevah.
Great opportunity to get a gesture from them though for the error - couple of free services or wotevah.
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This. New cars get painted fairly commonly so that wouldn't concern me too much tbh. I think of all the colours that can get away with a black roof though, that dark blue is probably the best.integrale_evo wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:21 pm Would definitely look better blue. I’d probably be ok with them painting it as long as you had it in writing that it would get the same bodywork warranty as the rest of the car / paint, and they were able to get a good colour match.
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Great looking wagon, congrats.
If only the B3 touring had those arches.
If only the B3 touring had those arches.
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The windscreen skooshers are attached to the wipers
What an age we live in.
(Waits for everyone to say its been like this on new cars for years)

What an age we live in.
(Waits for everyone to say its been like this on new cars for years)
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The girth on those rear arches is quite arousing

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@Ascender I don’t know if it is common - E-Tron doesn’t have this on the front (but does on the rear).
Evora skoosher is rubbish / two piddly streams of water. Tried a fan version (from the Focus) with a theoretically better spray pattern, but the top section of the fan hit the edge of the access panel and never made it to the screen. Reverted back to 2 pissy streams and fitted an additional 4-nozzle skoosher on the wiper. Jubbly.
Evora skoosher is rubbish / two piddly streams of water. Tried a fan version (from the Focus) with a theoretically better spray pattern, but the top section of the fan hit the edge of the access panel and never made it to the screen. Reverted back to 2 pissy streams and fitted an additional 4-nozzle skoosher on the wiper. Jubbly.
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View from the wing mirror please @Ascender - I do love seeing a strong sticky-oot arch in the side mirror (944, VXR8 and Evora all deliver in this respect).
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That looks especially cool, it works with the black roof but a blue roof would probably be more unique if black was as standard.
My 1991 Peugeot had wiper mounted scooshers, as does the Landy.
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My 1991 Peugeot had wiper mounted scooshers, as does the Landy.
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Mk2 Renault master had wiper sprayers, along with tubes zip tied to the arms that froze up whilst driving 
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This is far more work if you want it done correctly than is worth BMWs time and they won’t do it properly. Assuming your dealer actually cares enough that they get the paint match correct and they even bother to remove the rear spoiler, and the small wing on the spoiler, and the brake light and the gps antenna then you have the main problem which is the tiny weatherproofing rubber seal which goes all the way round the perimeter off the roof alongside the roof rails.Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:17 amThis. New cars get painted fairly commonly so that wouldn't concern me too much tbh. I think of all the colours that can get away with a black roof though, that dark blue is probably the best.integrale_evo wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:21 pm Would definitely look better blue. I’d probably be ok with them painting it as long as you had it in writing that it would get the same bodywork warranty as the rest of the car / paint, and they were able to get a good colour match.
The roof rails must come off which is a headlining out job and then you’ve got the windscreen seal and the boot seal.
It’s a lot of things to fuck up and you’ll potentially end up with a leaky car with scratched trim and some new rattles or you’ll get a car with overspray all over the seals.
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Citroen BX used to have that setupAscender wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:54 am The windscreen skooshers are attached to the wipers![]()
What an age we live in.
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TBF, given how quick they built it and delivered it it would probably be quicker to get a new order as wellMito Man wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:33 amThis is far more work if you want it done correctly than is worth BMWs time and they won’t do it properly. Assuming your dealer actually cares enough that they get the paint match correct and they even bother to remove the rear spoiler, and the small wing on the spoiler, and the brake light and the gps antenna then you have the main problem which is the tiny weatherproofing rubber seal which goes all the way round the perimeter off the roof alongside the roof rails.Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:17 amThis. New cars get painted fairly commonly so that wouldn't concern me too much tbh. I think of all the colours that can get away with a black roof though, that dark blue is probably the best.integrale_evo wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:21 pm Would definitely look better blue. I’d probably be ok with them painting it as long as you had it in writing that it would get the same bodywork warranty as the rest of the car / paint, and they were able to get a good colour match.
The roof rails must come off which is a headlining out job and then you’ve got the windscreen seal and the boot seal.
It’s a lot of things to fuck up and you’ll potentially end up with a leaky car with scratched trim and some new rattles or you’ll get a car with overspray all over the seals.
