M3 Touring

[IanF]

I like them

[MikeHunt]

I like them

Don’t worry, you should see some of my shirts.

[nuttinnew]

I like them

Don’t worry, you should see some of my shirts.

and just like that you've inspired Gordon Murray...

[MikeHunt]

Just to bring this back on topic before we nosedive into fashion, the e39 was simultaneously one of the coolest saloons and worst looking estates ever, the M5 and B10 both on my bucket list.

[Ascender]

I like them

I like them on certain colours. Which seems like a strange thing to say as they're such a small design feature. So the jury is still out. My wife hates them, but she's already says she doesn't want to change car, so what does she know. Within the first week I'll have come back to the car to find it with no fuel and straw in the boot.

The E39 still looks great in Saloon form and the E61 estate still looks amazing with the m sport bodykit or M5 body. That generation was the first 5 series designed by Chris Bangle wasn't it, which got slated on release?

[Rich B]

I like them

I like them on certain colours. Which seems like a strange thing to say as they're such a small design feature. So the jury is still out. My wife hates them, but she's already says she doesn't want to change car, so what does she know. Within the first week I'll have come back to the car to find it with no fuel and straw in the boot.

The E39 still looks great in Saloon form and the E61 estate still looks amazing with the m sport bodykit or M5 body. That generation was the first 5 series designed by Chris Bangle wasn't it, which got slated on release?

e60/61's look awful in anything other than M sport trim - we're the initial release ones in basic trim?

[Ascender]

I like them

I like them on certain colours. Which seems like a strange thing to say as they're such a small design feature. So the jury is still out. My wife hates them, but she's already says she doesn't want to change car, so what does she know. Within the first week I'll have come back to the car to find it with no fuel and straw in the boot.

The E39 still looks great in Saloon form and the E61 estate still looks amazing with the m sport bodykit or M5 body. That generation was the first 5 series designed by Chris Bangle wasn't it, which got slated on release?

e60/61's look awful in anything other than M sport trim - we're the initial release ones in basic trim?

Yeah, you're right. Basic trim and horrid alloys I think which just accentuated the styling in all the wrong ways. I think that was the same for the 3 series from the same era?

[KevH18]

I like them

I like them on certain colours. Which seems like a strange thing to say as they're such a small design feature. So the jury is still out. My wife hates them, but she's already says she doesn't want to change car, so what does she know. Within the first week I'll have come back to the car to find it with no fuel and straw in the boot.

The E39 still looks great in Saloon form and the E61 estate still looks amazing with the m sport bodykit or M5 body. That generation was the first 5 series designed by Chris Bangle wasn't it, which got slated on release?

e60/61's look awful in anything other than M sport trim - we're the initial release ones in basic trim?

How are you getting on with yours @Jimmy Choo? Sorted those alloys out yet?

[Jimmy Choo]

How are you getting on with yours @Jimmy Choo? Sorted those alloys out yet?

I'm bonding nicely. The drive over to the girlfriend's is country roads and the mid range punch is an utter delight for overtaking.

I'm going to stick with stealth spec on the standard alloys and rebadge it as a 516d for the lolz.

[MikeHunt]

That generation was the first 5 series designed by Chris Bangle wasn't it, which got slated on release?

BMW seem to have a habit of releasing cars that look awful at first and end up growing. The E60 and E65 were the first, but the G29 and G11 LCI and more recently the G80, G87 and G70 all looked hideous at first. I have owned 3 of these

[Mito Man]

It’s because each subsequent models looks worse than the previous. Not just BMW either, they’re all at it.

[DaveE]

Why do the X-Drive cars always seem to have "too big" gaps between the front tyres and arches?

[Mito Man]

Because they have more ground clearance to go off road.

[DaveE]

Because they have more ground clearance to go off road.

But only the front wheels can go off road

[Ascender]

Why do the X-Drive cars always seem to have "too big" gaps between the front tyres and arches?

Apparently it's something to do with a combination of the staggered wheel size (19 at front and 20 at back) and safety design regulations about track width. I shall not be taking any further questions on the subject.

I will though be looking at doing something about that front gap.

[jamcg]

Didn’t someone on here have an x-drive bmw they lowered the front of and ended up putting it back standard?

[nuttinnew]

Didn’t someone on here have an x-drive bmw they lowered the front of and ended up putting it back standard?

That rings a bell. Red 3er derv estate? Iirc it was lowered when they got it. I'm going to say Nef (while also thinking it isn't him, so maybe someone N or in teh Scotchland ).

[DeskJockey]

Didn’t someone on here have an x-drive bmw they lowered the front of and ended up putting it back standard?

That rings a bell. Red 3er derv estate? Iirc it was lowered when they got it. I'm going to say Nef (while also thinking it isn't him, so maybe someone N or in teh Scotchland ).

Not Nef. Foz. He's not posted on here for quite some time.

[nuttinnew]

Not Nef. Foz. He's not posted on here for quite some time.

That's him I was close, three letters
Yes, long time no hear, I hope all is well with him

[DaveE]

Some of the premiums being asked for these are hilarious

Saw one the other day that was over £120k and it wasn't even fully loaded (no ceramic brakes for example)